How to start a game...?

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    Smile Thanx for the sympathy....:) I'll come up with a new game in 4 months... U'll see

    Well Bubba u're right that it doesn't seem to be useful anymore for this thread to work. But there is something I have to tell u ppl.

    U ppl have always criticized on others and have done nothing else. I thought that u would be more knowledgable than me and that's why I used the above way of asking for the help.

    Actually, what one of the replies show me, is just hatredness and nothing else.

    For their information... I am one of the toppers of my University. I have been one of the most punctual and honest students in my Univ. and in context to the practical, I have done alot of projects. And to the graphics I have a lot of theoretical knowledge and have some practical experience but not typically related to the game...

    I thought that U ppl r mature enough in this field and also on this board to answer my question as a helper and not to criticize on it.

    AND ONE MORE THING... FOR THOSE WHO THINK THEMSELVES SOME KIND OF GENIUS OR R PROUD OF THEMSELVES THAT JOB OR MONEY IS NOTHING BUT SINCERITY AND FAITH... i AM SURE THAT U WOULD BE A GREAT GREAT PROGRAMMERS BUT UR BASIC PROBLEM IS THAT U THINK URSELF SOMETHING AND U R PROUD. hOWEVER IF LIFE GAVE US A CHANCE WE WOULD MEET AT SOME CHALLENGING PLATFORM TO SHOW EACH OTHER............................................. ......!)

    Thanx to those who replied me only for help.

    bye

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    Sorry but your logic does not follow Tara. You should be able to do this on your own and since you are such a great college guru you, of all people, should be able to figure out how to move graphics concepts into games. I just don't buy it.

    If you cannot take your knowledge and synthesize it into a graphics engine and/or game engine then there is nothing we can do to help. We probably don't know more than you but what we do know we know how to apply towards games.

    Games are all about problem solving and programming that you just will not find in the classroom. What they give you there are the tools for success in comp sci and I'm sure that if your professors's knew that you were unable to take that knowledge and apply it, they prob would think they messed up somewhere.

    So stop letting others think for you and think for yourself. There is not one way to do game programming and there is no set method (per se). So hit the code, fail, research, code, fail, research, code, fail, research.......................until you get something.

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    To start.

    For Google:

    3D graphics programming, game programming, rasterization, matrices, quaternions, texture mapping, light mapping, shadow mapping, shadow volumes, fog in games, sky boxes, sky spheres, billboards, sprites, animation, skinning characters, linear interpolation, bilinear interpolation, linear/bilinear/trilinear/anisotropic filtering algos,keyframing animation,playing movies in C,DirectX programming,OpenGL programming,Game theory and design,how to program games in C,vertexes,3D mathematics,vertex morphing,vertex tweening,......................................... .....

    That's enough topics.

    We all started here as noobs including me and we all got better by doing something instead of asking others constantly. We don't mind helping with certain algos, graphics, concepts, etc....but what we do not appreciate is someone who wants us to simply pour all of our knowledge into them and yet they have not shown one iota of code, effort, or interest in researching the topic.

    So before you go judging the board and my fellow game programming friends perhaps you ought to do just a little old fashion hard work. Several of us have worked together and the only thing I think we can be accused of is that most of us cannot stay on one project for too long. This is because we are constantly soaking up new information and eager to try out new algorithms. That is the heart and soul of a graphics/games programmer. There is always a faster more efficient way to do something.

    So if you want to work hard and get little recognition welcome to game programming, if not and you continue to post threads like this....you will just get flamed.

    U ppl have always criticized on others and have done nothing else. I thought that u would be more knowledgable than me and that's why I used the above way of asking for the help.
    Always, eh? You've got 4 posts bro which tells me you have no room to talk.
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    I think we all have to calm down a little. Even after graduating, I know that getting job will be tough. But what he's asking for, it seems, is a little help on going from requirements to design.

    But I wouldn't attempt to do a 3D game. You should look up a "feasibility study" in one of your software engineering books. Unless if everyone on your team knows 3D programming you should at least speak to your professor. This seems a little too ambitious for one-semester.

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    A 2-d game would probably be easier, just make a mario clone or something. You seriously need to write some pseudo code to do this, just think:
    Code:
    pos=GetKeyboardInput();
    DrawSprites(pos);
    if(pos>0)
    {
        ScrollBackground(currentPos+pos);
    }
    else if(pos<0)
    {
        ScrollBackground(currentPos-pos);
    }
    else
    {
        //do nothing
    }
    I'm no game programmer, but I program other things, and moving from theory to application is the same for any situation, you just have to do it yourself.
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    I'm no game programmer, but I program other things, and moving from theory to application is the same for any situation, you just have to do it yourself
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    ofcourse he could do mario clone with some levels of mario kart in them...

    that would be ultra cool

    and to make it unreal ultra cool, he should hand mario a redeemer

    edit: damn i take that back, dont steal my idea!; i can see that i am gona be earining billions
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    Quote Originally Posted by psychopath
    LOL!
    final project and can't implement simple features for a game/engine? You'd think that before you would know at least some basics, and definatly know software/game design steps. This has actually brightened my day a bit, i needed a good laugh.
    Whats even funnier is i'm probably about 7-10 years younger than you (i'm 13 and you say this is your final course which i assume is in a college/university, so i estimate you to be 20-25, tho i could be wrong), and Iv'e manage to put togeather the beginnings of a 3D game maker/engine. I find that very sad actually, and you should be very ashamed of yourself.

    *walks away innocently*

    -psychopath
    And, no, I do not believe you're 13 years old. Yes, I do believe that you want people to THINK you're 13 years old. It is SO easy to tell in your post that you're quit a bit older than 13 (let's just say that I have a seventh sense for detecting liars).

    If you're such the prodigy that you apparently strive to have everyone believe you are, then feel free to HELP the guy out. Jeez. This is my first post here, and it's stuff like this that ........es ME off.

    I simply couldn't help myself here, and probably have cursed myself from here on out on this forum, but good god the almighty, some people just kill me on the Internet with the bull.......... they eat, sleep and try to force on others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dayknight
    ofcourse he could do mario clone with some levels of mario kart in them...

    that would be ultra cool

    and to make it unreal ultra cool, he should hand mario a redeemer

    edit: damn i take that back, dont steal my idea!; i can see that i am gona be earining billions
    Every played the Thief series (now on XBox, for Thief 3) ? When I saw "mario kart" above, I couldn't help but recall maybe the funniest thread I've seen in my life Here is the thread, if you don't know much about the Thief series, it may not make you laugh.
    Thief 3: The Go-Kart Project

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    >>If you're such the prodigy that you apparently strive to have everyone believe you are, then feel free to HELP the guy out. Jeez. This is my first post here, and it's stuff like this that ........es ME off.<<

    If that makes you so mad, then please do us all a favor and leave now.

    First of all, I don't see you helping the guy out, and you have no right to call psychopath a liar. I know plenty of 13 year olds who are good with computers and who don't always run around t41Kng liek th15!!!!1111omg.

    Second, you're right, you did curse yourself. You need to learn that until you gain some respect around here, don't go around randomly flaming people like that. It's people like YOU who ........ me and most of the other people here off.


    >>some people just kill me on the Internet with the bull.......... they eat, sleep and try to force on others.<<

    yeah same here so just stfu about it.
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    I know how to start your game!!!

    Code:
    #include <iostream>
    using namespace std;
    
    int main()
    {
        ANYTHING HERE;
        return 0;
    }

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    And bumping old threads is highly frowned upon here.
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    >>And bumping old threads is highly frowned upon here.

    he didn't bump it, some n00b without a cause did. I think this can be closed.
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    Not a good way to begin your journey here tremere. What ........es me off is people who act like they know a lot or claim to be Mr. Campus at their university and yet cannot even think for themselves. This board, especially the game programming board, is full of people who once knew nothing about game programming but had a desire to learn. Now many of us are far beyond where we started but we got there through good old fashioned hard work and research....not to mention crashing the computer about 50,000,000 times because of our crappy code.

    But as you can see there are several ongoing projects here at the board and I've talked with them and helped them and they have become my friends. They are some of the best programmers, make that the best people, I've ever come in contact with.

    If you want to learn and are not afraid of research, reading books, and plain old coding till your eyes bleed...then welcome to the game programming board.

    Know that we will help...but we will not do it for you nor will we help those who do not help themselves or quite honestly have shown any effort at all.

    Our point is...there are those here who have never stepped foot in a university classroom and yet they seem to know far more than those who have. Not always the case, but it does seem to be a trend.

    Mr. Wizard is one of the programmers here who has had some formal training in the field but you don't see him going about bragging about it or everyone begging him for information. It's about mutual respect my friend and if you want to gain some please refrain from posting like you did in this thread.

    Yes, I vote this thread should be closed.

    Cprogramming.com is a great place with great people. If you don't like it, there are other boards out there. If you want to learn what good posts are then read the FAQ or read posts by other respected members. You will see that we respect each other and hold each other in high regard. We all have different talents, desires, aspirations, and goals....but we all love to program.
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    >>he didn't bump it, some n00b without a cause did. I think this can be closed.
    That's who I was talking to And yes, I vote for a close.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chubz
    I know how to start your game!!!

    Code:
    #include <iostream>
    using namespace std;
    
    int main()
    {
        ANYTHING HERE;
        return 0;
    }
    lol, pfft it didn't compile!

    Oh man, what happened to Tara that hes on his final project and cant even get a start on it.. thats just not right. The topics you need are far beyond being covered in forum topics (because they are basicly saying: learn all the basics, learn physics, lighting, maps, models, whatever and thats not really useful, thats for a book), and are more topics you learn in University (or should have learned) and then get recaps on from tutorials, with touchups from forum help. Maybe try google tutorials, game dev books, or free ebooks which cover those topics.. a lot.

    Psychopath could definetly be 13 years old... though I doubt Tara really is in University and is 20 years or older, unless his first language isn't English and he doesn't use the computer much that he has grammar errors, and spelling shortcuts. For a person who is getting a degree at a Uni, that has a computer game program as its final project, it seems odd.

    tremere.. his post seemed fine, its just clearly pointing out how annoying it is people don't care about the career path they go into and end up not learning jack when others spend their teen years just preparing for it and in the end it may not make a difference, and really.. that guy really is wierd to be posting on some forums expecting some result that would even come close to getting him started on his final project.. I mean come on, its not something you can really sum up without getting out all the keywords and saying search google with these

    EDIT: Wow this topics old I didnt even notice..
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