Space Shooterz!

Stan100 · 02-02-2003, 01:51 PM

This may be weird and all but Hunter, do you think you could adjust Spz! so I can use the arrow keys and space bars?

One more thing:
Can you reconmend a good tutorial? (besides TheForgers!)

One more more thing:
Can you beat the game? I've gotten to 13 aliens w/out an ending!
Question For All:
What is your favorite weapon? What is you highest score

pode · 02-02-2003, 05:31 PM

what game are u talking about?

TechWins · 02-02-2003, 11:29 PM

Hunter's game that he created a LONG time ago. My understanding that he is not going to update the game again, but he is in the midst (at least that's what he said a while ago) of recreating the game but in DirectDraw instead of GDI.

Stand, if you have the source to the game why don't you make the changes to the game yourself?

frenchfry164 · 02-03-2003, 04:43 PM

http://www.gamedev.net/reference/pro...es/gpgenesis1/

Stan100 · 02-04-2003, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Stand, if you have the source to the game why don't you make the changes to the game yourself?

2 things: I am bad (just starting to finish console/ beginnning Windows)

If You ever call me StanD I will have to come to where you live and attack you

Hunter2 · 02-05-2003, 07:23 PM

Quote:

This may be weird and all but Hunter, do you think you could adjust Spz! so I can use the arrow keys and space bars?

I tried that some time ago, but then I ran into problems with not being able to press more than 2 keys at once (or something like that), so I couldn't move forward/left and shoot at the same time. Maybe DirectInput will be more useful

Haven't started though, still tied up with DirectDraw.

Quote:

Can you beat the game? I've gotten to 13 aliens w/out an ending!

Nope! I've gotten to something like 36 aliens before (

), but it's impossible to beat the game... the aliens have a population that is several million times that of us humans

In short, you can beat your friend's score, but not the game.

Pretty foolproof design if you think of it, since it isn't too easy for anybody (it just keeps getting harder until your computer crashes from running out of memory), and it isn't too hard for anybody to not be able to beat at least level 1 and 2 (just stay put and shoot rockets

).

Quote:

Can you reconmend a good tutorial? (besides TheForgers!)

What about Sunlight's? http://sunlightd.virtualave.net But other than that, nope

Quote:

he is in the midst (at least that's what he said a while ago) of recreating the game but in DirectDraw instead of GDI.

Yep

But I gotta figure out how to use DirectDraw first.

Quote:

My understanding that he is not going to update the game again

If you mean the GDI version, that's true. But I've already tweaked the DirectX version (which IMO is an update in itself), and I'm trying to make the limitbreaks more diverse/original, and above all, even more corny

Munkey01 · 02-05-2003, 08:07 PM

I bet you could beat the game with a simple memory hack

But that is out of my league for right now.

Silvercord · 02-05-2003, 08:39 PM

Hey hunter I like your space shooters game. I'm glad you're making it with dx, the gdi one ran slow after a few levels, but I enjoyed playing it nonetheless, and I was happy you shared the source!

EDIT: You said you were having problems with the keys, here's something from nehe's tutorial, i dunno if you've looked at it or not but it works fine having keys pressed down at the same time
you make a bool array with 256 elements. Then in your windows procedure you put:

EDIT2: I hope you didn't get a chance to read the windows procedure keyboard code I posted a few minutes ago, don't bother with that it's too slow

Using getkeystate handles keyboard input much faster, here's a snippet from a gametutorial. the 0x80 just makes it so it is only active when the key is being held down, you can #define NOHOLD 0x80 or something in your code

Code:

	// Check if we hit the Up arrow or the 'w' key
	if(GetKeyState(VK_UP) & 0x80 || GetKeyState('W') & 0x80) {				

		// Move our camera forward by a positive SPEED
		MoveCamera(speed);				
	}

	// Check if we hit the Down arrow or the 's' key
	if(GetKeyState(VK_DOWN) & 0x80 || GetKeyState('S') & 0x80) {			

		// Move our camera backward by a negative SPEED
		MoveCamera(-speed);				
	}

	// Check if we hit the Left arrow or the 'a' key
	if(GetKeyState(VK_LEFT) & 0x80 || GetKeyState('A') & 0x80) {			

		// Strafe the camera left
		StrafeCamera(-speed);
	}

	// Check if we hit the Right arrow or the 'd' key
	if(GetKeyState(VK_RIGHT) & 0x80 || GetKeyState('D') & 0x80) {			

		// Strafe the camera right
		StrafeCamera(speed);
	}

Hunter2 · 02-05-2003, 09:03 PM

Hmm, sounds interesting. This is supposed to allow you to press and hold a lot of keys at once? I always thought that was a hardware restriction... Oh well, I'll give it a run in a test program. And also, I'm assuming that this bypasses the message loop? So that means I'll have to re-structure my program... Oh well

Where there's a will there's a way! (p.s. Thanks for the suggestion, I never thought of that

)

**EDIT**
By the way, would you happen to know how fast GetKeyState() runs? After all, it would have to be called a LOT of times, and I'm kind of worried about performance right now...

Silvercord · 02-06-2003, 01:09 PM

Quote:

By the way, would you happen to know how fast GetKeyState() runs? After all, it would have to be called a LOT of times, and I'm kind of worried about performance right now...

Yes it by passes the message loop, therefore I can guarantee it's faster than NeHe's way of checking for keys because NeHe's way always has to go through the windows procedure, and the windows procedure is usually too slow (hence directx, everything is low latency because everything happens instantly, or the events are processed directly instead of waiting on the windows procedure). But anyway like I was saying I'm pretty sure GetKeyState is fast enough for your purposes, using direct input may be more ideal for keyboard/mousemovement but again windows includes functions that allow you to check these things instantly (i.e GetCursorPos for determining in screen coordinates where the mouse pointer is position). You should check out the camera class from gametutorials.com (the completed camera class should be in all tutorials passed tutorial number 5 or 6).

Hunter2 · 02-06-2003, 01:13 PM

Well then, looks like Space Shooterz! GDI version 2 is coming to a theatre near you

but for the DirectX version I'll use DirectInput.

Eibro · 02-07-2003, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Munkey01
I bet you could beat the game with a simple memory hack But that is out of my league for right now.

Check out my website

Silvercord · 02-07-2003, 04:56 PM

That's pretty cool eibro

pode · 02-09-2003, 01:14 PM

yeah its really cool man, could u do it with minesweeper too?
i tried reducing the mines, it wont change!
can u help me out pls?!

Munkey01 · 02-09-2003, 10:10 PM

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Originally posted by Eibro
Check out my website

I know. I had seen it before. Nice work. But when ever I changed it to suit my needs (trying to use it with pinball, changed memory address). It never changed the score... Did I do something wrong? I also tried it with a few other games (after altering the code more). It did say it found the address and successfully changed the value, but it didn't show up in the game.

02-02-2003, 01:51 PM	#1
Stan100 I am he who is the man! Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 361	Space Shooterz! This may be weird and all but Hunter, do you think you could adjust Spz! so I can use the arrow keys and space bars? One more thing: Can you reconmend a good tutorial? (besides TheForgers!) One more more thing: Can you beat the game? I've gotten to 13 aliens w/out an ending! Question For All: What is your favorite weapon? What is you highest score __________________ Stan The Man. Beatles fan When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I thought as a child, I reasoned as a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me" (the holy bible, Paul, in his first letter to the Cor. 13:11)
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02-02-2003, 05:31 PM	#2
pode Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 479	what game are u talking about?
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02-02-2003, 11:29 PM	#3
TechWins Rambling Man Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,050	Hunter's game that he created a LONG time ago. My understanding that he is not going to update the game again, but he is in the midst (at least that's what he said a while ago) of recreating the game but in DirectDraw instead of GDI. Stand, if you have the source to the game why don't you make the changes to the game yourself?
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02-03-2003, 04:43 PM	#4
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Munkey01 _ Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 280	I bet you could beat the game with a simple memory hack But that is out of my league for right now.
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02-05-2003, 08:39 PM	#8
Silvercord Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,708	Hey hunter I like your space shooters game. I'm glad you're making it with dx, the gdi one ran slow after a few levels, but I enjoyed playing it nonetheless, and I was happy you shared the source! EDIT: You said you were having problems with the keys, here's something from nehe's tutorial, i dunno if you've looked at it or not but it works fine having keys pressed down at the same time you make a bool array with 256 elements. Then in your windows procedure you put: EDIT2: I hope you didn't get a chance to read the windows procedure keyboard code I posted a few minutes ago, don't bother with that it's too slow Using getkeystate handles keyboard input much faster, here's a snippet from a gametutorial. the 0x80 just makes it so it is only active when the key is being held down, you can #define NOHOLD 0x80 or something in your code Code: // Check if we hit the Up arrow or the 'w' key if(GetKeyState(VK_UP) & 0x80 \|\| GetKeyState('W') & 0x80) { // Move our camera forward by a positive SPEED MoveCamera(speed); } // Check if we hit the Down arrow or the 's' key if(GetKeyState(VK_DOWN) & 0x80 \|\| GetKeyState('S') & 0x80) { // Move our camera backward by a negative SPEED MoveCamera(-speed); } // Check if we hit the Left arrow or the 'a' key if(GetKeyState(VK_LEFT) & 0x80 \|\| GetKeyState('A') & 0x80) { // Strafe the camera left StrafeCamera(-speed); } // Check if we hit the Right arrow or the 'd' key if(GetKeyState(VK_RIGHT) & 0x80 \|\| GetKeyState('D') & 0x80) { // Strafe the camera right StrafeCamera(speed); } Last edited by Silvercord; 02-05-2003 at 08:47 PM.
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02-05-2003, 09:03 PM	#9
Hunter2 Carnivore ('-'v) Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 2,866	Hmm, sounds interesting. This is supposed to allow you to press and hold a lot of keys at once? I always thought that was a hardware restriction... Oh well, I'll give it a run in a test program. And also, I'm assuming that this bypasses the message loop? So that means I'll have to re-structure my program... Oh well Where there's a will there's a way! (p.s. Thanks for the suggestion, I never thought of that ) EDIT By the way, would you happen to know how fast GetKeyState() runs? After all, it would have to be called a LOT of times, and I'm kind of worried about performance right now... __________________ Just Google It. √ (\ /) ( . .) c(")(") This is bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your signature to help him gain world domination. Last edited by Hunter2; 02-05-2003 at 09:12 PM.
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Hunter2 Carnivore ('-'v) Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 2,866	Well then, looks like Space Shooterz! GDI version 2 is coming to a theatre near you but for the DirectX version I'll use DirectInput. __________________ Just Google It. √ (\ /) ( . .) c(")(") This is bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your signature to help him gain world domination.
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Silvercord Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,708	That's pretty cool eibro
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