Thread: What would i need to make a game in 2d?

actually, it may be just my personality, but i dont like to take backwards steps, because then i make it an annoying habbit. to me, its like, learning PHP then learning HTML afterwards and ditching PHP. knowwhatimean?

my book explains GDI somewhat, tells you how to make a triangle and box, and an ellipse. thats it. and i find it very confusing to draw something, just to set it up i mean. but drawing is the easy part.

lol I had this argument a looong time ago with somebody (DOlson I think). Two quotes came up, "why walk when you can run?" and "why use a knife when you can use a sword?" or something along those lines. My reply was, "a) because it hurts more when you run into a wall then when you walk into it. b) Well, why use a potato peeler when you can use a sword?" Some things are easier done with the simpler tool

It's good that you know how to make a triangle and ellipse, but you probably want to also learn how to load and draw bitmaps. It's pretty simple to learn and do, but also very important... and once you've taken those 3 hours to learn it, it's yours to put on your resume, and you can move on and learn the bigger and better stuff.

Hey I remember that argument! That was the best. Everyone was talking about allegro and how it's wrse than DirectX. And BTW, it was a sword and an axe, not a potato peeler

Anyway, napkin, can you give me the site for the download, instead of the direct link? Like the home page or something?

Where do I read more about GDI?

Is GDI even on Windows98?

www.geocities.com/napKINfolk/Main.html Yeah, I got really bored in Information Processing class (Its my second time taking it, I dont know why they gave it to me again...) with a digital camera and geocities (I just got a haircut so my hair is like 4 inches shorter). Enjoy!

erm...the game is not pronounced "Ballz." The...erm...'a' is silent so it sounds kinda like "belz." (maybe sega will take it easier in the ensuing lawsuit)

[edit]GDI->Graphical Device Interface. GDI is not something like SDL or OpenGL, it is a method to do things (like OOP or GUI)[/edit]

//napKIN

Is GDI even on Windows98?

Yes It's part of it.

Where do I read more about GDI?

Try http://www.gametutorials.com/Tutoria.../Win32_Pg1.htm
The stuff you'll want is sort of scattered around, but try google... there'll probably be a lot of good GDI examples floating around.

GDI is not something like SDL or OpenGL

Well duh, SDL goes with OpenGL and OpenGL goes with SDL, but GDI isn't anywhere in the picture

it is a method to do things (like OOP or GUI)

OOP: A way of programming; uses "objects" that are re-used.
GUI: Something that you use to interact with a program.
-"something" -> not a method, since methods are ideas and not things
GDI: Something you use to make stuff appear on the screen
-"something" -> not a method, since methods are ideas and not things


How is GDI a method? It seems more like a built-in "feature" of Windows, and not "a way" of programming to me...

**EDIT**
Stan, check this out... it's brief, but sort of helpful:
http://www.fortunecity.com/rivendell...rgers.htm#2.5.
And this:
http://blacksun.box.sk/aztek/winprog...e=winprog.html

Hmmm....after a bit of thought, I concur. Thanks for the clarifications(or "total-tear-down-and-then-rebuild-what-was-said" lol)

Also, did you program that Space Shooters game Hunter? I assume you did but I'm not sure since it is a bit higher (skill-wise) than the other downloads. If (You_Did==1) Good Job!;


//napKIN

Yep

it is a bit higher (skill-wise) than the other downloads.

lol the other downloads were my first few experiments in Windows -

Text Editor = #1 <-- my attempt at a useful dialog-based prog

Theseus and the Minotaur = #2 <-- was "homework" from some lessons I was taking - got me started off in GDI

Tic Tac Toe = #3 <-- "why not? Nothing else I can do "

Space Shooterz = #4 (a.k.a. da MUTHA project). <-- "must... do... REAL-TIME!!!"

Heh I'm just trying to port Space Shooterz to DirectDraw right now, but that's not coming along very well...

Where do I get openGL?

Where is the GDI thingy located(what directory would it be found?)


BTW, what is your avatar hunter? A powerwasher?

Where is the GDI thingy located(what directory would it be found?)

Well, it's not really in a directory. To use it, all you have to do is put "#include <windows.h>" at the top of your code, since it is "built into windows"

BTW, what is your avatar hunter? A powerwasher?

Close... it's a person's hand holding a lightsabre

LOL! I coulda swore your (Hunter's) avatar was one of the car wash thingies you screw onto the end of a hose!

//napKIN

HAH! lol now I get it! Maybe I should fix it... nah, too lazy

P.S. that avatar is a section of one of my screenshots from Jedi Knight II!!!

Man, all this time I would of bet my life that your avatar was a power washer!!! Man, was I wrong! It even has water dropletts in the backround! That tutorial is close to the best thing I have ever seen. If anyone is still out there listening, please tell me where I find OpenGL and, napkin, I downloaded the sdl thing(DLL)
Now what? Is the dll just supposed to be a library, I mean how do I access it?

The SDL.DLL is needed for the .exe to run. In order to make your own code and compile you will need the header files (SDL.H I believe). You can get that from the SDL link (^-above-^). The Ballz game took me about 7-8 hours (in 2 days) total to make using SDL.

//napKIN

If the link you're refering to is your homepage, then by all means TELL ME WHERE TO FIND IT!
else
if (www.geocities.com/napKINfolk...!=whatyoumeant)
{
tell me where
return 0;
}

Quote of the day: Microsoft doesn't make mistakes, it regulates them. Example: C#

lol, you have your if statement returning 0!!

public int tellmewhere()
{
GoHere();
return hope_thats_what_youre_looking_for;
}