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    Want to learn

    Hello all,

    JVerne refered me to this language to learn from scratch and achieve my goal, i have search thru this board and haven't found the info i need.

    Yes there are books refered but, they dont seem to be good for someone beginning programming. Although i have quite good notions, i would like something that will take me from scratch and teach me good share of it.

    Web site tutorial and books, i dont mind. As long as i learn from scratch

    Thanx for your help !

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    Only thing I can suggest looking through at this point is the topic stickied at the top of this section of the forums, which it sounds you might have looked through already.

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    http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Visu...841173&sr=1-13

    this book is what I used when I was first starting out. C# is pretty easy if you have other language experience but this was a good guideline for me anyway.

    But I am still building my skill set.
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    I will look into it, thanx.

    My experience in programming goes way back about 20 years ago, learned basic on a TI99/a.

    Then, i left that out till about a week ago when i decided that video gaming was too boring and it was time to give a new challenge to my brain. Started a tutorial on C. I had no problems so far: variables, conditional loop, pointers, arrays, operator and constant.

    Some people told me to go straight to C++, i was heading that way when someone told me to go for C#. I just want a good challenge in creating learning application for my kids and creating some rpg. I know i am far away from it but, i have plenty of time. I love trying to figure out how to get my silicon filled box to do what i have in my head. Bugs ??? Code errors ??? No biggie, i love those too !! They keep me high for a long time !! If i work on something and did a mistake, i wont go to bed till i find what i did wrong. (Yeah, only that in 1 week trying to figure out how to make my higher/lower game exercise from my tutorial to be better and have more options lol )

    Some people suggest me to go for Python too but, i dont know, i have looked into it and, i must admit, there was something that i didn't like about it. Just a bad feeling. 30 % of the software are build in C, there must be a reason why. And this must be the reason why i want to learn it !!

    So that being said, you got here my experience, knowledge and motivations to learn a language. Motivation is low and, knowledge too, this is why i need a good book and/or tutorial that will take me by the hand and show me the way till i can say " Oki, i got it, leave me alone, i will look at reference books on synthax and do it myself"

    Mobidoy

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    30 % of the software are build in C, there must be a reason why. And this must be the reason why i want to learn it !!
    I do not know about the accuracy of that figure, but chances are it is because those software are:

    1. "legacy code" under maintenance, or,
    2. libraries designed so that APIs in other programming languages can be easily built from them, or
    3. written with the need to directly access low level facilities, possibly dropping into assembly, or,
    4. written with exceptional runtime speed in mind, or,
    5. simply mandated the choice of C by management for obscure business reasons.

    From what I see, none of these would apply to you.
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    Lol, yup, as you said, for now, none of those apply to me, but who knows, maybe one day (i have 2 more years to serve for canadian army and i will have 20 years done. I could retire at that time) i will completly switch to programmation. I love being an electronic technician but, programming was my first love !

    As for the 30%, i got that on couple of web sites talking about history of language !

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    well, in working for a company that makes software that you most likely use (indirectly), i can say that 90% of our stuff is c++ because it is services and things that are aimed at performance.

    only stuff like some of our clients are written in anything else.

    Good luck on learning though. I also undertook c# with the intentions of learning it by creating a game that has very little presence in electronic form. I am still working on it but it has provided me we many unique situations that allow me to build different skill sets. I also like c# because when i run into an annoyance that i can resolve with my own program, I can usually quickly wrap one up in c# and each time try to use something that I have not done before, like special visual styles, or registry work, or networking, or threading... stuff like that.

    thats how I learned and am learning and I use that book as a good basis to start my skills, as well as, a reference.

    Good Luck!
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