are srand() and rand() 's implementations standardized?

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    are srand() and rand() 's implementations standardized?

    Hi,
    Are the implementations of srand() and rand() standardized? eg. If I use the same seed, can I expect to get the same sequence from gcc and Microsoft compiler? If not, can someone please suggest a good general-purpose (not for cryptography) pseudo-random generator?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberfish View Post
    Hi,
    Are the implementations of srand() and rand() standardized? eg. If I use the same seed, can I expect to get the same sequence from gcc and Microsoft compiler? If not, can someone please suggest a good general-purpose (not for cryptography) pseudo-random generator?
    You are not guaranteed to get the same results. As for an algorithm I recommend Mersenne Twister. Search for "mt19937.c"

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    On my Vista machine:
    Code:
    C:\Users\...\Documents\Code>randtest
    4404, 25954, 17763, 29679, 4113, 18955, 8176, 17911, 814, 2645,
    On a FreeBSD machine I have access to:
    Code:
    $ gcc -o randtest randtest.c
    $ ./randtest
    22470959, 1859769688, 524664131, 462195135, 665282746, 1607245740, 1929840214, 1378956057, 470931575, 1469741830,
    $ cat randtest.c
    #include <stdio.h>
    #include <stdlib.h>
    
    int main()
    {
            int x;
    
            srand(1337);
            for(x = 0; x < 10; ++x)
            {
                    printf("&#37;u, ", rand());
            }
            printf("\n");
    
            return 0;
    }
    $
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    Thank you for your help. I will certainly look into Mersenne Twister.

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    The TR1 libraries contain the random library which contains a framework for random number generation, including a Mersenne Twister.
    If your compiler doesn't provide a TR1 implementation yet, you can get Boost's version.

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    Incidentally, Prelude also has an implementation of the Mersenne Twister algorithm at her eternally confuzzling website. The download link is under "Libraries".
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    I see... Thanks for your replies.

    I guess I will just use mt19937.c for the time being =).

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