visual studio IDE w/ different compiler

tooKool4School6 · 06-05-2006, 03:15 PM

I am hoping it is possible to use the Visual Studio IDE with a different compiler. I would like to configure visual studio to use the MinGW compiler instead of its own.

(The project I am doing right now contains code that does not compile in Visual Studio but does under MinGW.

SlyMaelstrom · 06-05-2006, 03:34 PM

I'm not sure you can configure Visual Studios to do that. You'll have to write your code in VS, save it, then compile in MinGW seperately.

In any event, VS is pretty standard as far as compilation goes. I understand they give a lot of weird warnings when you use the C standard library, but if you can't compile your code in it, then you most likely aren't writing standard code.

Mario F. · 06-05-2006, 03:37 PM

There's no way that I know of. Unless Visual Studio gives access to its object model and someone writes a pluggin or extension.

I do find it somewhat strange though that you can't use code that compiles in MinGW. Could you be more specific?

dwks · 06-05-2006, 04:08 PM

Quote:

In any event, VS is pretty standard as far as compilation goes. I understand they give a lot of weird warnings when you use the C standard library, but if you can't compile your code in it, then you most likely aren't writing standard code.

I disagree. Try this code in Visual C++ 6:

Code:

#include <iostream>

int main(void) {
    for(int x = 0; x < 10; x ++) {}
    for(int x = 0; x < 10; x ++) {}

    return 0;
}

(Although I must admit I've never tried a newer version of that compiler, so perhaps the latest versions do a better job.)

Mario F. · 06-05-2006, 04:11 PM

The for loop scope has been fixed for a while (thank goodness!). For backward compatibility with previous versions of visual studio it still lingers on as a wart on the compiler options. But it is turned on by default.

SlyMaelstrom · 06-05-2006, 04:30 PM

That compiles in Visual Studios 2005, but if you say you've seen problems with it, perhaps the version the OP is using is the issue.

dwks · 06-05-2006, 04:34 PM

Possibly. But there's lots of code that compiles under MinGW but not under Microsoft compilers:

Code:

mkdir("tmp");
chdir("../bin");
stricmp(x, y);

Mario F. · 06-05-2006, 04:42 PM

err... that's not standard c++

dwks · 06-05-2006, 04:48 PM

Exactly. The OP never said his/her code was standard C++.

SlyMaelstrom · 06-05-2006, 04:49 PM

...but I did. In the part you quoted, in fact.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlyMaelstrom

In any event, VS is pretty standard as far as compilation goes. I understand they give a lot of weird warnings when you use the C standard library, but if you can't compile your code in it, then you most likely aren't writing standard code.

I just recenly got VS 2005, so I don't know all the "in"s and "out"s of it. There may be standard code that won't compile in modern VS, but I haven't heard anything about it. I couldn't say I'm a reliable source on it.

dwks · 06-05-2006, 04:53 PM

Sorry, I missed that (even though I quoted it).

Mario F. · 06-05-2006, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlyMaelstrom

There may be standard code that won't compile in modern VS, but I haven't heard anything about it. I couldn't say I'm a reliable source on it.

Well... I didn't get a satisfactory answer yet to a thread started here a few days ago about uninitialized pointers to const under VC++ 2005. Info I get from books is that this is a compile-time error. However VC++ 2005 treats it as undefined and goes as far as not even issuing a warning.

But I'm threading lightly. I can't find an authoritative writing on it. Regardless this may as well be something in which VC++ 2005 doesn't follow the standards.

**Prelude** · 06-05-2006, 06:14 PM

>I am hoping it is possible to use the Visual Studio IDE with a different compiler.
Yes, you can. Hell, I do it with my favorite assembler (FASM), so you're not even restricted to a language directly supported by Visual Studio.

Unfortunately, it's not exactly a simple process. You need to set up some custom build rules and otherwise customize the build process to use a different compiler.

tooKool4School6 · 06-06-2006, 07:18 AM

The code is not standard C++. The error I'm getting is on a line that uses "#include_next". I googled this and it looks like it's a special feature of g++, not standard C++.

**Bubba** · 06-06-2006, 01:04 PM

Prelude has it. Custom build rules. Will also compile shaders from within the IDE.

06-05-2006, 03:15 PM	#1
tooKool4School6 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3	visual studio IDE w/ different compiler I am hoping it is possible to use the Visual Studio IDE with a different compiler. I would like to configure visual studio to use the MinGW compiler instead of its own. (The project I am doing right now contains code that does not compile in Visual Studio but does under MinGW.
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Mario F. (?<!re)tired Join Date: May 2006 Location: Portugal Posts: 5,220	There's no way that I know of. Unless Visual Studio gives access to its object model and someone writes a pluggin or extension. I do find it somewhat strange though that you can't use code that compiles in MinGW. Could you be more specific? __________________ Originally Posted by brewbuck: Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.
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06-05-2006, 04:11 PM	#5
Mario F. (?<!re)tired Join Date: May 2006 Location: Portugal Posts: 5,220	The for loop scope has been fixed for a while (thank goodness!). For backward compatibility with previous versions of visual studio it still lingers on as a wart on the compiler options. But it is turned on by default. __________________ Originally Posted by brewbuck: Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.
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06-05-2006, 04:30 PM	#6
SlyMaelstrom Devil's Advocate Join Date: May 2004 Location: Out of scope Posts: 3,735	That compiles in Visual Studios 2005, but if you say you've seen problems with it, perhaps the version the OP is using is the issue. __________________ Terms of Service By quoting or replying directly to this post, you consent to the fact that all of the information in the post above is completely accurate and highly intelligent and no comments will be made towards its validity, thoughtlessness, and/or grammatical structure. Violators will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
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dwks Frequently Quite Prolix Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 7,629	Possibly. But there's lots of code that compiles under MinGW but not under Microsoft compilers: Code: mkdir("tmp"); chdir("../bin"); stricmp(x, y); __________________ dwk Seek and ye shall find. quaere et invenies. "Simplicity does not precede complexity, but follows it." -- Alan Perlis "Testing can only prove the presence of bugs, not their absence." -- Edsger Dijkstra "The only real mistake is the one from which we learn nothing." -- John Powell Other boards: DaniWeb, TPS Unofficial Wiki FAQ: cpwiki.sf.net My website: http://dwks.theprogrammingsite.com/ Projects: codeform, xuni, atlantis, etc. New project: nort
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Mario F. (?<!re)tired Join Date: May 2006 Location: Portugal Posts: 5,220	err... that's not standard c++ __________________ Originally Posted by brewbuck: Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.
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06-05-2006, 04:48 PM	#9
dwks Frequently Quite Prolix Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 7,629	Exactly. The OP never said his/her code was standard C++. __________________ dwk Seek and ye shall find. quaere et invenies. "Simplicity does not precede complexity, but follows it." -- Alan Perlis "Testing can only prove the presence of bugs, not their absence." -- Edsger Dijkstra "The only real mistake is the one from which we learn nothing." -- John Powell Other boards: DaniWeb, TPS Unofficial Wiki FAQ: cpwiki.sf.net My website: http://dwks.theprogrammingsite.com/ Projects: codeform, xuni, atlantis, etc. New project: nort
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06-05-2006, 06:14 PM	#13
Prelude Code Goddess Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 9,661	>I am hoping it is possible to use the Visual Studio IDE with a different compiler. Yes, you can. Hell, I do it with my favorite assembler (FASM), so you're not even restricted to a language directly supported by Visual Studio. Unfortunately, it's not exactly a simple process. You need to set up some custom build rules and otherwise customize the build process to use a different compiler. __________________ My best code is written with the delete key.
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06-06-2006, 07:18 AM	#14
tooKool4School6 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3	The code is not standard C++. The error I'm getting is on a line that uses "#include_next". I googled this and it looks like it's a special feature of g++, not standard C++.
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Bubba Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 7,472	Prelude has it. Custom build rules. Will also compile shaders from within the IDE.
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