Thread: hi to all. can you give me somme hints.

  1. #1
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Posts
    7

    hi to all. can you give me somme hints.

    first i will like to say Hello @

    naw im a total new to any caind of Programing leangue
    but i will like to ask a few qestions on that .

    well i will like to learn this but i do not know what i need
    im intrest in Multimedia genelaly
    and will like to know if there is an Book that
    i can by and read.

    what i will like to do is build softwares for diferent
    hardwares, but as i sayed im a begginer and do
    not know what i need of softwares and
    most importend of where to beggin with.

    thanks in advance for any replay
    and sorry for my Bad English.


    bobi

  2. #2
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Sep 2001
    Posts
    4,912
    You will need a text editor so that you can write source code, and you will need a compiler, which is a program that converts your source code files into files that can be run by your computer.

    Sometime you can get these tools combined into in what is called an IDE. For C / C++, Dev-C++ is an excellent and commonly used choice. It is also available free of charge.

    The non-forum part of this website can give you more information about getting started. It has information about different compilers / IDE's, how to get them, and it also has tutorials that you can use to teach yourself the language.

  3. #3
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Posts
    7
    cindly thank you

    i will have a lock round and see if i find any thing

    and will you please tell me wich is the
    The non-forum part of this website

    thank you


    bobi
    Last edited by bobi; 12-05-2004 at 04:25 PM.

  4. #4
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Sep 2001
    Posts
    4,912

  5. #5
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Posts
    7
    hi

    well i have taken a lock a round in the forum
    and to tell you the truth it is all Greek to me.

    i have not found anything on the subject

    so i will realy like to know if there is any
    good book obout Cryptografy

    im verry apasionated with the DVB-S (digital video broadcast by sattelite)and will like to build softwares for (resivers,senders,cards,cams,and other programers)

    i will need all the help i can gett to start

    will be very happy for any hints

    and if any of the Moderators here think that
    im in wrong section or breacking the rules just
    move my post.


    bobi

  6. #6
    Registered User major_small's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Posts
    2,787
    like sean already said, get a book(s) and compiler/IDE. once you tell us what compiler you're using, we'll be able to help you build your first program. from there on, you should be able to follow tutorials with (or without) a little help.

    for the time being, forget about cryptography. that's very heavy, in-depth stuff there. I'll teach you XOR encryption, but that's about all, and that's definately not in the cards for the first few lessons.

    here's what you do:

    1) go to http://www.bloodshed.net and download dev-c++.
    2) run the program, and in the text area that appears, type the following:
    Code:
    #include<iostream>
    int main()
    {
        std::cout<<"Hello World"<<std::endl;
        std::cin.get();
        return 0;
    }
    3) press <F9>
    4) come back and tell us what that does
    5) I'll tell you what to do next when you get here.
    Join is in our Unofficial Cprog IRC channel
    Server: irc.phoenixradio.org
    Channel: #Tech


    Team Cprog Folding@Home: Team #43476
    Download it Here
    Detailed Stats Here
    More Detailed Stats
    52 Members so far, are YOU a member?
    Current team score: 1223226 (ranked 374 of 45152)

    The CBoard team is doing better than 99.16% of the other teams
    Top 5 Members: Xterria(518175), pianorain(118517), Bennet(64957), JaWiB(55610), alphaoide(44374)

    Last Updated on: Wed, 30 Aug, 2006 @ 2:30 PM EDT

  7. #7
    Mayor of Awesometown Govtcheez's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2001
    Location
    MI
    Posts
    8,823
    This is likely way over your head programming wise, but the Handbook of Applied Cryptography is available free here. It's still possible to grasp the idea without understanding the code.

  8. #8
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Posts
    7
    Quote Originally Posted by major_small
    like sean already said, get a book(s) and compiler/IDE. once you tell us what compiler you're using, we'll be able to help you build your first program. from there on, you should be able to follow tutorials with (or without) a little help.

    for the time being, forget about cryptography. that's very heavy, in-depth stuff there. I'll teach you XOR encryption, but that's about all, and that's definately not in the cards for the first few lessons.

    here's what you do:

    1) go to http://www.bloodshed.net and download dev-c++.
    2) run the program, and in the text area that appears, type the following:
    Code:
    #include<iostream>
    int main()
    {
        std::cout<<"Hello World"<<std::endl;
        std::cin.get();
        return 0;
    }
    3) press <F9>
    4) come back and tell us what that does
    5) I'll tell you what to do next when you get here.


    hi and thank you for the help
    well i am using Dev-C++ 5 Beta 9 (4.9.9.1)
    and i have run the code you have in your post
    and what happens it is that after the (f9) there is three files wich
    are saved wich are( Makefile.win,Project1.dev,Untitled1.cpp)

    thats so far i have comme what could i do next please

    well i know that cryptography is havy staff but isn,t that something i must learn in DVB-S

    XOR is some thing i must to so im very intrested in any help
    if you could help.


    @ Govtcheez thanks for the link


    bobi

  9. #9
    Registered User major_small's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Posts
    2,787
    okay, assuming that you actually 'ran' it and it worked the way it was supposed to (display "hello world" in a console window), it's time to tell you what that code is actually doing:

    Code:
    #include<iostream>  //pre-written code for you to use
    
    using namespace std; //this allows you to skip the std:: before cout,endl, and cin.get()
    
    int main() //this is where the program starts. always.
    {
        cout<<"Hello World"<<endl; //cout is the standard output for C++, and endl flushes the stream
        cin.get(); //get() is a method commonly used to take in input from the user
        return 0; //used in functions, which you'll learn about later - you can ignore this for now
    }
    if you need further clarification on that, post and I'll answer your questions. now you need to go and try out some tutorials. the tutorials on this site are alright, although most won't work in your compiler because the tutorials are old.

    I would try using these tutorials: http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/

    edit: those tutorials are old too... hmm... just try using either those tutorials or the ones on this site (cprogramming.com probably has better tutorials). if (when) you come upon problems, come back and post and I'll help you get through them. eventually you'll learn about the problems you're getting and you'll be able to fix them on your own...
    Join is in our Unofficial Cprog IRC channel
    Server: irc.phoenixradio.org
    Channel: #Tech


    Team Cprog Folding@Home: Team #43476
    Download it Here
    Detailed Stats Here
    More Detailed Stats
    52 Members so far, are YOU a member?
    Current team score: 1223226 (ranked 374 of 45152)

    The CBoard team is doing better than 99.16% of the other teams
    Top 5 Members: Xterria(518175), pianorain(118517), Bennet(64957), JaWiB(55610), alphaoide(44374)

    Last Updated on: Wed, 30 Aug, 2006 @ 2:30 PM EDT

  10. #10
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Posts
    1
    Ive been lurking these forums on and off for a week. I'm already glad I found this site. I have been interested in learning C++ for a year or two. I already know leaps and bounds more than what a book was trying to teach me.

    Quote Originally Posted by major_small

    Code:
    using namespace std; //this allows you to skip the std:: before cout,endl, and cin.get()
    I'd been scratching my head trying to figure out what namespace std; did through the in site tutorial. When I saw you put std:: I was really thrown for a loop. I either missed it or it wasn't in the tut. Thanks for taking the time to point it out.

    Quote Originally Posted by major_small
    I would try using these tutorials: http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/
    I'll take this advice too. I've been reading the site tuts over and over while worrying about their content. Thanks again.

  11. #11
    Toaster Zach L.'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2001
    Posts
    2,686
    so i will realy like to know if there is any
    good book obout Cryptografy
    Once you have learned a good bit of programming and are ready for it, Modern Cryptography by Wenbo Mao is a very good introductory cryptography book. That said, it doesn't focus on code, but methods and some of the theory behind cryptography.
    The word rap as it applies to music is the result of a peculiar phonological rule which has stripped the word of its initial voiceless velar stop.

  12. #12
    Registered User major_small's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Posts
    2,787
    Quote Originally Posted by Porphyria Plan
    I'd been scratching my head trying to figure out what namespace std; did through the in site tutorial. When I saw you put std:: I was really thrown for a loop. I either missed it or it wasn't in the tut. Thanks for taking the time to point it out.
    yeah, most tutorials don't bother telling you what it does - they just tell you to put it there. it's because they're afraid of 'overloading' you with information. IMO, just a small, temporary explanation is alot better than 'just do it because we said so'
    Join is in our Unofficial Cprog IRC channel
    Server: irc.phoenixradio.org
    Channel: #Tech


    Team Cprog Folding@Home: Team #43476
    Download it Here
    Detailed Stats Here
    More Detailed Stats
    52 Members so far, are YOU a member?
    Current team score: 1223226 (ranked 374 of 45152)

    The CBoard team is doing better than 99.16% of the other teams
    Top 5 Members: Xterria(518175), pianorain(118517), Bennet(64957), JaWiB(55610), alphaoide(44374)

    Last Updated on: Wed, 30 Aug, 2006 @ 2:30 PM EDT

  13. #13
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Posts
    7
    hi agein

    well i ahve been reading a bit around in the forum
    and to tell you the truth nothing rings a bell for my head
    not yet at least all seams Chinese for me

    and do you think it will be better for me as a TOTAL begginer
    to have a book and read or?

    last i will like to know if it will be any good for me to
    by both books for the C++ and Cryptografy

    and wich is bets for me as a begginer.


    thank you for the help


    bobi

  14. #14
    Mayor of Awesometown Govtcheez's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2001
    Location
    MI
    Posts
    8,823
    Start with basic programming in C or C++. When you actually understand that, then you can move on to other things. Jumping right into cryptography is a recipe for failure.

  15. #15
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Posts
    7
    Quote Originally Posted by Govtcheez
    Start with basic programming in C or C++. When you actually understand that, then you can move on to other things. Jumping right into cryptography is a recipe for failure.

    thanks for the advise my friend

    well i think i must do a lott of reading firs of all
    and se from there what i can do and if it is somme dificult thing
    for my brain

    bobi

Popular pages Recent additions subscribe to a feed

Similar Threads

  1. Give me some opinions on setting up a server
    By Shadow in forum A Brief History of Cprogramming.com
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 04-19-2004, 10:38 AM
  2. Can you give me your tip plz :)
    By dionys in forum C Programming
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 04-11-2004, 11:14 PM
  3. Replies: 1
    Last Post: 10-01-2001, 10:39 AM
  4. How To Give A Font Colour ?
    By Unregistered in forum Windows Programming
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 09-14-2001, 01:22 PM
  5. Just to give you an idea of what we're going through...
    By rick barclay in forum A Brief History of Cprogramming.com
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 09-13-2001, 02:09 PM