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    Post Im A C++ Newb Looking For Answers

    hey, im new to c++ and im looking for a few answers befoer i try to get in depth into the language.

    my first question is: are visual c++ and C++ (general) the same language??

    and can you make windows programs (like with visual basic) with visual c++ or regular c++????

    please answer these questions and keep in mind im new to all this stuff and trying to learn.

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    Visual C++ Supports All Of C++ But Has Some Non Standard Functions Also.

    Visual C++ Is C++ but C++ Is Not Visual C++ Get it?

    Yes You Can Make Windows Apps With C++ Using Either Win32 API, and If Ya Have Microsoft VC++ You Can Use MFC

    And If You Don't Want To Spend Money On A Complier(like me )
    check this one out www.bloodshed.net it supports making win32 programs

    Oh And BTW a good win32 tutorial www.winprog.org/tutorial/
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    Visual C++ is microsoft's implementation of the C++ language which means that its a compiler for the C++ language. There are a lot of other compilers for C++ available also. With vb6 you design applications by using the form designer and placing controls on a form but with visual c++ you have to write the code yourself. To create GUI windows programs with C++ you will need to use a library or something since C++ doesn't have built in support for that.

    And If You Don't Want To Spend Money On A Complier(like me )
    check this one out www.bloodshed.net it supports making win32 programs
    As far as free IDEs/compilers go, I prefer Borland's C++BuilderX. The personal edition is available for free at the website. With it you can either you mingw that dev-c++ uses or their c++ compiler. There's also a linux version available.
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    I prefer Dev-C++

    if you're just starting out with C++, don't worry about creating windows stuff just yet... first get down the basics and learn the language, then move to windows programming
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    I would deffinately agree with major_small. Writing GUI windows apps is significantly more difficult than just learning the basics of the language.

    'C++' is a language standard. 'Microsoft Visual C++' is Microsoft's set of development tools for programming in the C++ language, it's not a seperate language in itself. Which set of development tools you use is completely up to you. As others have said, there are both free and commerical alternatives.

    Try to keep away from the idea of 'relugar C++' as there is no real regular C++, it's just a standard which many different companies have written tools for.

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    One last tip.

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    >Visual C++ Is C++ but C++ Is Not Visual C++ Get it?

    hmmm....i get what you are trying to say, but in truth it should be the other way around.

    because all standard C++ works with the Visual C++ compiler, therefore C++ is Visual C++.

    However, not all Visual C++ extended keywords and library functions work with standard C++, therefore your statement should be the other way around....

    or maybe it should be something like this...

    in the following relation, do not think of <= and >= as comparison operators, but rather think of >= and <= as superset and subset operators.

    Visual C++ >= C++
    C++ <= Visual C++
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