Is VC++ worth buying?

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    Is VC++ worth buying?

    Greetings all, I'd like to ask you who thinks its worth buying VC++? I have Borlands C++Builder 6, as well as Dev C++ and DJGPP. I find all of these nice to use, especially CBuilder, but I find with CBuilder I am forced to supply tonnes of dll and bcl files along with my own program, which can easily triple the size of it all.

    Does VC++ have a way to include such libraries in the executable generated, and do you think it is worth purchasing as a compiler? I notice a LOT of programming tutorials on things such as DirectX and OpenGL all seem to expect the user uses VC++. Any help on this decision would be greatly appreciated.

    ~ Paul

    Edit: Also, I expect it comes with inline assembly or something like that, but can it generate stand alone code (in the way that GCC does), for things such as operating system development?

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    I dont know alot about the extent of VC++ abilities, but i use it and its all i use (also tried borland). I would reccomend you get hold of a demo of VC++, or one of the beta's, and toy round with it. See if you like it. As for wether its worth buying, i would say no. Not because i dont like it, but because the prices are steep. I purchased .NET Enterprise Architecht but i got a deal i couldnt pass up.

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    yes visual c is worth buying BUT if i were you i would wait for the next incarnation codenamed everett which is out in beta now and as far as im aware fully standards compliant at last ( except maybe export, not sure about that and dont care much either) and will finally support partial template specialisations.
    Free the weed!! Class B to class C is not good enough!!
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    Well I found I could get the academic version for AUD$127, so the price is no big deal, I'd just like to hear your thoughts on it.

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    if you do not need fairly advanced templates then it is good. But i would really wait for the next version it should be out by the end of the year i think.
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    For that price i would purchase it. .NET is solid, and i love it.

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    .net is not solid.....

    try to compile something as simple as this. Its valid c++ according to the standard. gcc should compile it with no trouble.
    Code:
    template < class A >
    class a {};
    
    template < class A >
    class a<A*> {};  // partial specialisation for pointer types
    
    template < class A >
    class a<const A*> {}; // ditto pointer to const
    
    template <>
    class a<char> {};
    
    template< class T >
    void f(T)
        {}
    
    template< class T >
    void f(T *)
        {}
    
    template<>
    void f(char)
        {}
    
    int main()
    {
       a<int> a1;
       a<char> a2;
       a<char*> a3;
       a<const char*> a4;
       f(1);
       f('1');
       f("1");
       return 0;
    }
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    Ok, perhaps solid was the wrong word. I have never done templates, allow me to rephrase:

    For what i have done in VC++ .NET, it seems to be solid.

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    i would recommend it.....its pretty much all ive ever used, and i havent had any problems with most tasks...incase there ever is a problem tho, i have Borland, Dev, and Codewarrior as backups

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    I believe it's the #1 selling compiler. (Borland is the most popular free compiler.) That doesn't make it the best, but if you were looking for a job, it wouldn't hurt to say "I use MSVC++", because the odds are that they use it too. If I was taking a beginning class, I'd want to use whatever the instructor and/or most of the other students were using.

    I don't think it's the easiest compiler to learn to use, because of all the features and the particular IDE user interface... But, I've never used a compiler that worked the first time! There's always some "trick", or something to re-configure.

    I'd say yes, it is worth the $100... if you have the cash. (There are lots of students who don't have the "extra" $100.)

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