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    Buying advice?

    Well, I was thinking of buying MS Visual C++. So I want to know if its a good choice over what borland has to offer (on a aprox. budget of 150$

    What do you think?

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    Well, lets say if I was to do some graphics, which one would be better. I was told that for 3D stuff Microsoft's visuall c++ is better.

    But then there is JAVA which I looked at, but, well maybe...

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    I would buy MS VC++ or VC.NET. The predominant compiler for the game industry is Visual Studio.

    Borland is way too hard to work with IMO, I've used up to 5.02 Borland compiler.
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    I wouldn't bother if your poor like me. I could
    get it for 15$ and I still havn't mainly because I'm lazy.
    There are free ones such as mingw and borland's cmd line.

    Well, lets say if I was to do some graphics, which one would be better. I was told that for 3D stuff Microsoft's visuall c++ is better.
    Any win32 compiler can uses the same directx libaries.
    Also realize that the msvc++ standard does not optimize.
    In order to get an optimizing microsoft compiler you have to buy
    the pro or above edition.

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    Well, I'm pretty sure that I'll like (not love) VC++ but...

    I looked on the net at compusa and amazon and microsoft.com and found different prices for some of the programs.

    I don't understand why VC++ standard costs roughly 100 and some kind of enterprize eddition costs around 3000 which I don't got.

    Are there surtain limitations on what you can do in both, like will the standard eddition let you make .exe?

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    The standard edition will probably cover your needs. The biggest limitation of the standard edition is the compiler is non-optimising.Other than that it should be fine to at least learn c++,windows api programming and MFC/ATL programming. I believe you can also do c# with it although im not 100% sure of that.
    The enterprise editions etc. are the full visual studio package not just vis c++.

    Dev-c++ is an IDE that you can use for the mingw compiler. That is free and not as good as visual c++.net standard but will get you started for nothing. Its here

    Personally im not keen on borlands c++ although I used to like their debugger. I found it more user-friendly than msvc's.
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    Do you think I'll be able to do some of serious graphics stuff with VC++? 'cause I'm about to go to compusa in about 24 hours and I might make a mistake!

    But wheather that will be a big mistake we'll will find out.

    So, so far I'm thinking of buying the standard eddition VC++ for roughly 100.

    Thanx!

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    you can do anything opengl and directx with visual c++.net. Is that good enough graphics for u??
    Free the weed!! Class B to class C is not good enough!!
    And the FAQ is here :- http://faq.cprogramming.com/cgi-bin/smartfaq.cgi

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    Talking

    am, sure. yeah that'll do.

    Oh and yeah, another question!!!

    Will the standard eddition of VC++ .net work on standard eddition of winXP? Or do I need to buy a pro version of XP

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    it will work on any edition of XP or win2k
    Free the weed!! Class B to class C is not good enough!!
    And the FAQ is here :- http://faq.cprogramming.com/cgi-bin/smartfaq.cgi

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