I'm wondering if it's possible if after I learn c++, or hire someone, if I/him could (unless there already is) *either make a side-to-side list with each symbol being beside the corresponding English word and/or a interface, can I once I learn code/can the hired expert coder?
Yes.
I recommend that you express yourself in English a little more clearly. It was rather difficult to parse and understand what you were trying to ask.
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..................If a long Legend list of the c++ symbols and syntaxs can be put beside English terms...
..................And if a English interface for c++ can be made...
Then why am (*I) learning c++? I am super busy with my science discoveries I am pulling off and creating something huge more everyday, big stuff, I simply cannot learn c++, I need either a expert to make it or me to but without learning a language. Plus, the interface would be used by all once it's made, even if it couldn't edit itself, it's needed.
In a way, this already exists for C++ in the form of the C++ standard. It isn't a "long legend list" per se, but it does list the symbols and describe the syntax of standard C++, in English.
What is an "English interface for C++"? You have not explained what you meant by that, so given that you mentioned "long legend list", it sounded like you have in mind some educational tool to learn C++. If so, you should be the one to answer the question of why you want to learn C++.
I recommend that you hire a programmer to do the programming tasks that you need done. This forum community is for computer programmers, hobbyists, students, and other people interested in C, C++, C#, and programming in general, not for scientists who just need to get a computer programming task done but otherwise have no interest or business in programming.
What interface are you talking about?
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The interface I'm talking about would be a program, that I'd open, and instead of having to learn c++, I could easily code my AI invention by pressing English buttons and pasting and ect, basically the interface is a cover over top of the foreign language. Can't I/a expert easilllly code this baby up?
You want a graphical language to express scientific code? Try Simulink by Mathworks.
In general, graphical interfaces are impractical in expressing non trivial tasks. Also, it's easier for a programmer to write a program to a specification, than to give you a large an graphical toolset, which you would then try to use to write the same program. So there are not a lot of such tools for general purpose applications. A graphical tool would not be able to express the complexity of C++ without being as hard as C++ is to learn. So a graphical tool with that capability would be pointless. A simpler toolset is possible, and do exist for very narrow focus applications, such as sound generations, game making, or Simulink as mentioned above.
It is too clear and so it is hard to see.
A dunce once searched for fire with a lighted lantern.
Had he known what fire was,
He could have cooked his rice much sooner.
I'v found one like that before called Flowcode, but I know nothing of code nor its terms nor strange English words and am like a baby, can I go into the program and really code up my artificial intelligence easy? It's probably got tones of unknown words at the top and sides that none I'll be able to even begin...
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I think you are overestimating the importance of English in your programming. I believe you know enough to work efficiently.
I am not promising that there is nothing knew to learn, but please realize, when you choose a programming language that it only looks like English. For example, the keyword float is used to declare variables for real numbers, but float in everyday speech means something else. If you write code, you are learning specialized meanings that you won't use anywhere else. So, don't let your fear of English permeate here.
Frankly, if you do not have the time to invest in coding up your AI you need to hire someone to do it.
The reason programmers have work is because it's not easy. It's not set up this way on purpose, but you are vastly underestimating the work involved. It's disrespectful now.
I sent a pm to laserlight, but I'll also ask you(s!) - If I stay home all day everyday and return to my computer after eating everytime, how long would it take to learn c++ and how long(should be shorter time) before I'd begin to be able use it to prob make meh advent AI?
Also I tried hiring, but, 1fraud scary, 2pakistanian non English notttt gonna be coded right equallling I couldnt hire........
You have no computer programming background, right? That means you will have to learn many things besides just the programming language, its libraries and idioms, e.g., fundamental data structures and algorithms, programming paradigms, patterns and design, requirements gathering, testing, debugging, etc. For a motivated university student with no programming background, these usually don't start to come together and click for him/her to write non-trivial programs until two or three semesters of study, and some people never really get it.
So... if you were thinking that you could be done cramming in a week or two, sorry, but that is not going to happen. At the very least it would take several months, but it would be very difficult, maybe even dangerous, to try for that long at such an intense pace.
Also, this assumes that you are familiar with both AI research and practical techniques and hence can get started once you can program. I am inclined to view as suspect your claims that you have an "advent AI" (advanced AI?) idea because you have no programming background. While AI research is not primarily about programming, programming is an important tool to make it happen, and without any idea about that tool, I doubt that you have a currently practical idea that is truly novel beyond the current state of the field. In particular, I noted in your other forum topic that other than one point that I do not understand, your points sound like things that have already been done in computer vision research, and some of them might even be taught at (higher) undergraduate level.
I don't see what English has got to do with it.
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Well I guess it won't hurt to say the magic line in public, as long as the rest of the AI isn't known:
The Basis:
No particle arrangement (imagine all the balls in the air[vacuum]), i.e. human or door, is any more unique/hot/ugly/painful than any other particle arrangement, even if you clicked play and they moved. The reason you object this will be explained in 1 minute. Further backing this up, if you send 2 different senses in a brain and also into another little bit different brain, all reactions react accordingly. Even more backing this up, you say pain/pleasure in your arm is also truly unique & hot/or ugly & bad, but looking at these we clearly see the particle arrangement are different convoys of balls as bits being sent up your nerves. Now I explain your objection - we have triggers in us, all 5 senses, ex. girls/food/drugs/music, and when the reaction happens it triggers you to smile&laugh/frown&cry/tail-wag and triggers the actions that were just done to be saved and linked with the saved senses just gotten, then when sensory input matches memory it links to the actions and initiates them. And now, I tell you that all sensory input, like I had said, is nonsense just as much, so general relativity of a ball or things naturally explode does both do nothing in the brain, and the reason general relativity of a ball is-not a trigger is because we all know everybody can and does and again can believe anything is right, and then change beliefs to now " " is bad and " " is changed to being good. The reason we save senses of the right things is because if they get us triggers OR link to a good/bad trigger, that's exactly why you can say lose all your men or gain them for a win on a video game. Say this girl, mm, has bad cancer all over her, now you stop actions just like if you got a bad trigger ex. pain. Therefore, intelligence solely works by bad & good trigger *reactions. You only say you are "more"/human not molecular robot/has feelings/choice\at neurons/energy/multidimensional/"con."/"3 in 1"/special/right since it's good or else bad. We are robots plus work by particle destiny even if the uncertainty principal is true(good lol). But I have 3 real reason we shouldn't be killed, 1) illusion consciousness that doesn't affect AI, 2) If sensing-only fields sit in the back loving/hating whatever we go-to, 3) Are a field with choice while I discovered AI even though it'd act just like us.
That sounds vaguely like fuzzy logic. It doesn't amount to much of an AI without specifying how everything is connected, which isn't a trivial task. In the simplest case, this would be a simple neural net, for high level emotions, with each virtual decision point a virtual neuron. That's an infeasible approach to AI if you're manually connecting virtual neurons. You should look up these terms so that you can communicate how these relate to your ideas, and so that you can see what other work has been done in AI research related to yours.
Again, I suggest Simulink. It will help you put your thoughts into a concrete program without learning a language, although you will need to learn how to use the tool. It allows you to create links of components, with each component being a block on the screen.It probably won't scale for what you're trying to do, but it will help you prototype a model that you can make scale using another tool. Of course, It's not free...
Or just suck it up and learn a programming language. Probably Python, because it's easier to learn. Then you can put your ideas to code and a long the way gain a better understanding of how software works. Yes, this will take time, but if you're interested in making AI, knowing how to program is kind of vital context that you need anyway.
Hiring is a good idea, but before you can hire, you need to be able to clearly communicate what you want. I'm not sure your ideas are concrete enough that you can do that. Also a problem with hiring, is once your project is completed, whoever you hired will move on, leaving you with a tool that you can't easily improve.
It is too clear and so it is hard to see.
A dunce once searched for fire with a lighted lantern.
Had he known what fire was,
He could have cooked his rice much sooner.
*But I just proved no sensory input is beautiful nor makes sense to "gain knowledge" >>>>>> We completely work by good&bad triggers, knowledge senses link to these. If you disagree then start saying where you got stuck and your reason.
4 c++ questions
1. Is this c++ manual all I'll have to learn? C++ Tutorial - Learn C++ - Cprogramming.com
2. It looks like I could learn it in days, what's up?
3. I only know addition/subtraction/division/multiplication, will I need to learn more math or no?
4. Do you know of a list OR code where each cin & int & ect has a English meaning beside it? Cus I'll make one, but not if one already exists lol!
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No, you did not prove that. You made an assertion with minimal supporting arguments that may well be in the realm of philosophy, and this is not the place to debate philosophy.
Honestly, you're coming across like one of those people who jump at some famous open problem in mathematics, then without having acquired the mathematical skill to even start to tackle the problem, fancy themselves geniuses who have a solution that no one else can see. I mean, claiming that you are "super busy with my science discoveries I am pulling off and creating something huge more everyday, big stuff", then assuming that people who disagree with you "got stuck". Seriously.
That is one possible resource. Unfortunately, it is not quite as updated as we might like. The person who hosts those articles and this message board also wrote a book that is more updated and comprehensive (Jumping Into C++), but unfortunately it uses a pedagogical style that I do not agree with.
If you had a strong programming background, you might be able to learn sufficient C++ in days if you went at an intense pace. What's up is that you don't have a programming background, so such a timeline is ridiculous to contemplate as programming is so much more than merely learning a programming language.
Maybe. It depends on what you want to program.
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What about three c++ manuals? Any better?
C++ Language - C++ Tutorials
Learn C++
http://www.angelfire.com/art2/ebooks...usin21days.pdf
Do you know of a list OR code where each cin & int & ect has a English meaning beside it? Cus I'll make one, but not if one already exists lol!
Ex.:
Code:#include <iostream> using namespace std; int main() { cout<< BLAHBLAH "HEY, you, I'm alive! Oh, and Hello World!\n"; cin. BLAHBLAH get()BLAHBLAH ; return 1 BLAHBLAH ; }
AND/OR
cin BLAHBLAH
cout<< BLAHBLAH
get() BLAHBLAH
I don't think you's put enough time in reading my wall of text or my little summerization line above. You'd be able to disprove me. Like everyone, you never even thought of disproving my standing point(s) (even if told+why). Just, amazing. To me humans act parshly like monkeys, they do not notice a person falling dead. Something's missing.
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