So how hard is programming?

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    What do you think I did, s_c?

    MUWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

    Never mind, j/k of course. <insert standard disclaimer saying I don't condone illegal stuff here>

    Fool, s_c is right, of course - asking for exes is being, well, a fool.

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    Well you know

    I would ask for the .cpp files but I don't have my Visual C++ 6.0 yet.

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    There are free compilers around that you can use while waiting for MSVC.

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    I had Borland but couldn't figure that thing out. So I just deleted it and should be getting VC++ very soon.

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    Yeah, go to Dev C++ or DJGPP for some good free ones. Sounds like Dev-C++ is gonna be the one you want, though - it looks a bit like MSVC++

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    I'm downloading the Dev C++ now. I'll post back here in a bit after I play with it some. Thanks for the link!

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    Well I did it. I wrote *cough* stole *cough* and compiled my first program. Thanks for the code and the link to the compiler. Will MSVC be better than this one? I may hold off until the teacher shows us the program he/she will be using before I buy one. This program seems to do what I need.

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    MSVC can be better, depending on what you wanna do...

    However, i'm not the best person to ask about what it can or can't do - I don't use it much.

    Oh yeah, and I expect royalties for you using Hello World. I was, of course, the first person to write it.

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    LOL

    I think I'll try some tutorials now. See what else I can figure out.

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    how easy or hard is programming - it largely depends on what you want to do, how efficient your code needs tgo be and what o/s. In Uni/college they tend to teach you 'usless' programming. When i first went to uni we used consoles to print *'s - i mean !!!! why! theres learning the basics and theres taking the ........!

    i strongly advise learning as much C/CPP as you can before going - you ll have a head start on on other studnets - and maybe your lectureres

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    University CIS is not useless. This could not be further from the truth. Graduates are the pool that corporations recruit from although the competence of the instructors can vary, in most circumstances the curriculum is very similar across the population of University/College CIS courses.

    The only thing that they do not tend to do at College/University is to teach you API's. Instruction focusus on the definitons of 'C' and 'C++', which are best taught in a Win32 console.

    When you get out of College/University you will have the knowledge to understand the API of your choice. You can specialize in any area.

    But CIS is much more than just programming. An education combines skills that you will need in order to understand how to develop information systems technology. Try not to be too narrow in your judgement.
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    Dev C++ is good enough IMO. I am using it now. It's not til you start writing sizable projects (where you don't just remember all the functions arguments that you have written, and you have more than 10 or so classes, so browsing for classes via the files gets to be a pain) that MSVC has a real advantage. But by the time you start writing sizable projects, you will probably be in class. It would probably be best to use the same compiler as your teachers.
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    Originally posted by Witch_King
    University CIS is not useless. This could not be further from the truth. Graduates are the pool that corporations recruit from although the competence of the instructors can vary, in most circumstances the curriculum is very similar across the population of University/College CIS courses.

    The only thing that they do not tend to do at College/University is to teach you API's. Instruction focusus on the definitons of 'C' and 'C++', which are best taught in a Win32 console.

    When you get out of College/University you will have the knowledge to understand the API of your choice. You can specialize in any area.

    But CIS is much more than just programming. An education combines skills that you will need in order to understand how to develop information systems technology. Try not to be too narrow in your judgement.
    That is a very intelligent answer to the statement from above. I agree with you. I do understand that someone can teach themselves C++ or any other lang for that matter just as well as someone who obtains they're knowledge at a University. But the fact of the matter is the University graduate will have a much greater overall knowledge and a better chance at obtaining that desired job.

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    At my University we have to learn C for two semesters, then teach ourselves J++ (nooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!).

    But CIS is much more than just programming. An education combines skills that you will need in order to understand how to develop information systems technology. Try not to be too narrow in your judgement.
    I never thought I'd say this, but Witch_King is 100% right here.

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    i never said it was all useless - i meant the beginning tutorials are pretty useless - as most people (maybe all) starting a cs course have programmed in at least one langauge. If you read the post - i am talking about how they teach the basics - not the entire lang!
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