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MK27
I think most of us enjoy programming and appreciate enthusiasm, otherwise we would not be doing this at all, and you are enthusiastic.
I am not out to attack or belittle you.
That is good to know. :)
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BUT: you might want to consider the fact that you have now spent several days and scores of posts dealing with what really, truly, honestly, should be fairly simple, mostly because every time someone provides you with constructive criticism or advice, you take this as a personal affront and a challenge to your (nearly non-existent) skills and are determined to make a show out of it. That's not necessarily unusual, I have been a little bit like that before too :p -- just not on the same scale.
Technically, it wasn't several days working on this problem itself. Most of the time I was just browsing this forum, reading what was posted in my thread, and responding to it. And I think it was only a couple of days. The actual swap problem itself didn't take too long. I just had to work out the syntax to use with a templated function expecting a map and returning a multimap is all.
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You are not, it seems, a very fast learner, and that is okay, but being a slow learner and completely delusional is not a good combination.
That is true. I tend to get off to a slow start with most things in my life, and then a while later, start to kick butt on whatever it is. :p So be careful what you say to me now...
You might one day want my advice on a programming problem, instead of the other way around, no matter how doubtful that seems (even to me). haha. :D
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I'm just saying this in the hope that your slowness is not a result of low intelligence, but because of a personality trait that you could try and work on.
Yeah, I would say it is a personality trait. Sometimes I find communicating with people in debates/arguments, etc. to be far more fun than actually doing whatever it is we're discussing. So I usually take my time with the subject matter, and prefer to learn it over the process of time dealing with real people such as yourselves on these forums.
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You are stubborn and miss much forest for the trees, because you are more concerned about arguing instead of trying to understand what is being explained to you. If you can't change, you will just continue to get into excessive, mostly pointless threads like this, instead of learning C++ programming in a more serious way.
I think that is a good point there. Admittedly, I do like to argue, and it helps me think about a particular problem I'm trying to solve better, strangely enough. I do apologize if this sometimes gets out of hand.
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Again, I really am not trying to insult you. If I were some kind of school authority, I would take you aside and explain this to you for your own good, and that I wish I could make you understand. You need to trust people more. Even if they seem a little rude or arrogant to you.
Trust...
Yeah, trust is something that I'm not real big on, mainly because trusting someone requires you to make an assumption that the person you're trusting will live up to whatever it is they said they were going to do, etc. And in my life, most of the time when people made promises to me, they didn't keep them (including a girl I was in love with).
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Let me make an observation: after several years and 6500+ posts here, I can honestly say I can remember only ONE person with a worse attitude in this sense (repeatedly got into endless threads and seemed to learn nothing from them because s/he was convinced everything everyone said was wrong).
Dont get me wrong here, please. I have actually learned stuff from every thread I created on here, thanks to the posts created by y'all. True, sometimes I am slow in coming around to your viewpoint, but usually I eventually do end up doing whatever it is that was advised, if it seems advantageous for my program.
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That person got worse and worse and was eventually banned, and I'm sure no one missed them either. I don't think you are quite as crazy, Programmer_P, and I hope that's not your future. Take this to heart. Please.
Speak less. Listen more. Try to come up with more concise examples when you have a problem instead of asking everyone to follow along with your big project, which is probably a bad habit to have gotten into. Most of the other people here do that, and I am sure they get much more out of the experience, WRT to coding.
Now, that's some good advice I can recognize as such. :)
Hope to see more of it in the future.
Anyway, I guess this thread can be closed now. The original problem has already been solved, and now we've been going off-topic (a big thing, I know, on some other forums, don't know about this one) for quite a while now.