Help Needed: Borland C++ 5.5 Installation - URGENT!

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    Hi,
    I would be very very thankful if anyone could help me solve this problem:

    I'm trying to install Borland C++ Compiler 5.5 (that I've just downloaded from the Borland site). In the readme file, they say:

    1. Run freecommandlinetools.exe; choose the
    drive and folder into which you want to
    install the free C++Builder 5 command line
    tool development system.

    2. From the bin directory of your installation:
    a. Add "c:\Borland\Bcc55"
    to the existing path
    b. Create a bcc32.cfg file which will set
    the compiler options for the Include
    and Lib paths (-I and -L switches to
    compiler) by adding these lines:
    -I"c:\Borland\Bcc55\include"
    -L"c:\Borland\Bcc55\lib"
    c. Create an ilink32.cfg file which will set
    the linker option for the Lib path by
    adding this line:
    -L"c:\Borland\Bcc55\lib"

    I've done step 1. And there already is a bcc55 folder in the borland folder. There's a bcc32.exe file in that (bcc55) folder, but part b above says "create a bcc32.cfg" file, and so from there on, I have no clue whatsoever how to do anything it says.
    Please help me.. and it's urgent - my other compiler keeps crashing, and I need to finish two programs by tonight.

    Thanks a lot.

    Linette

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    if you have one problem with this compiler your going to have a million. Try this:

    http://www.bloodshed.net
    Dev-C++

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    Have you actually tried Dev C++ yourself before?

    I found a solution to my problem, there's an excellent simplification of the installation instructions at:
    http://community.borland.com/article...,21205,00.html

    So I finally installed it properly. But this thing is dos-based, which wasn't mentioned anywhere before installation. I don't mind using dos-based applications, but if you're sure Dev C++ works, I'll use that. I do prefer windows-based ones..


    Thanks

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    Well those were only text files which have a .cfg file name at the end.

    Anyhow, im guessing you are a university student ?
    444?

    anyhow, i suggest you just use the borland command line 5.5 compiler for work you *have to use it on*, and any other time use Microsoft Visual Studio 6.0. its much better in a lot of respects.

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    I don't know that much about compilers (I'm a nu b myself), but I use and like bcc55; it's has a slow learning curve but is low tech and does what it needs to.

    I think I can help with your q.

    run the command prompt (looks like dos) and nav your way to "c:\borland\bcc55\bin"

    type "edit bcc32.cfg"

    when your in type on 2 lines (case sensitive):
    -I"c:\borland.bcc55\include"
    -L"c:\borland\bcc55\lib;c\psdk"
    save and exit

    then you have to edit your you ilink32:
    in the c:\borland\bcc55\bin path type "edit ilink32.cfg"

    type this in: /L"c:\borland\bcc55\lib;c\psdk"
    save and exit

    you sould be set to go now. borland has its own newsgroup for bcc55 at the same place you downloaded it at. hope this helps

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    In a point and click society... more people need to go through the hardship of learning how to use command line instruments. Something as simple as, "edit your autoexec.bat file" seems to be light years beyond some people. "Where do I click to do that..."

    I saw someone say, "Maybe you should learn how programs work before you write them." in a post a while back. How true that is... I wish I would have applauded at the time.

    Most of the programs that newbies start with are console applications. Well if they do not even know what a console is and use point/click operations to make them, what is the point?

    My advice to everyone... learn how to navigate and run programs in a console. Learn what applications are available to you (inherent) in your OS to edit text files (hmmm... edit.exe), do networking (netstat, route, etc), etc.

    Learn that and then move on to graphical interfaces. You will only be more knowlegable than the thousands of chumps every day that pick up the latest copy of MSVC++ without knowing the slightest bit about computers....

    Think about it...

    (the_easy_road ? the_hard_road == who_learns_more)
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    well that is a decent idea, but programming in general should all be coded not point and click...

    learning how to use the command line compilers are ok, but they are not practical enough. learning how to use MSVC++ is very useful. besides you should have alot of PC knowledge of multipul platforms before you every learn programming.

    learn extensive coding pratices on a single platform...
    then learn how to code on multipul platforms...
    then learn graphical API's...

    depending on what kinda programmer you are.. some coders like making kewl GUI's... some dont care....

    ( i personally dont care about GUI's.)

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    Thanks Clane, I had found the same thing. If you read my first reply, I had said that that problem was solved; I just wanted to know if Dev C++ was better.

    im guessing you are a university student ?
    I'm not a university student. I'm 17.

    i suggest you just use the borland command line 5.5 compiler for work you *have to use it on*, and any other time use Microsoft Visual Studio 6.0. its much better in a lot of respects.
    I wonder why it doesn't make sense that I have to use a certain compiler for a program. I actually do have Visual Studio 6.0, but I don't think you can write C++ code in say Visual Basic, so..

    Something as simple as, "edit your autoexec.bat file" seems to be light years beyond some people.
    First of all, it was creating a .cfg file in dos that I didn't know how to do, not editing per se - I'm sure I could've figured out that the command was edit, if it had actually said "edit your .. file".
    Well I'm SORRY that I don't have much experience with an old operating system (which isn't even that useful any more), but that doesn't mean I'm stupid (clearly what you implied). Don't go on about that point and click society of yours in a "response" to my question; I know very well how little knowledge of computers many people have, but for your information I don't fall into that category. I just happened not to know how to create files in dos. pffft. If you think having little knowledge of dos is so pathetic, let me tell you, being impolite and in effect bragging about a skill this insignificant is way more pathetic.
    So someone said "Maybe you should learn how programs work before you write them." Sounds fair. I suggest you remember this too: Maybe you should learn how to respect people and be helpful before you join a forum.
    For your information, I do know how programs work. I have a CCNA certification from Cisco Systems. I got that last year. So don't tell me what to learn.

    Most of the programs that newbies start with are console applications. Well if they do not even know what a console is and use point/click operations to make them, what is the point?
    Maybe so. But this comment isn't exactly relevant here. Two years of programming experience might be short compared to a lot of people's experience here, but I don't think I'm that new to it. Besides, I do know what a console is. I have more experience using a console, configuring routers, switches, etc, than probably 98% of people my age (disregarding people older than me that know way less - whom I think should be your audience).

    Once and for all, not knowing how to create files in dos doesn't mean anything. It doesn't mean the person's stupid or knows nothing; it doesn't mean he/she only knows how to word-process.
    Okay?



    Linette

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    This isn't about you... you chose the right compiler to start with.

    My comments weren't even directed at you. I started typing that after reading...

    >>>if you have one problem with this compiler your going to have a million.

    My point is... do it the hard way now, and the easy way will be easier later and you will have an advantage of knowing "an old operating system (which isn't even that useful any more)" whereas some of your contemporaries will not.

    Should a person that encounters a problem just quit outright and move on to something new? I do not think so.

    >>>It doesn't mean the person's stupid or knows nothing

    Don't be so quick to assume things...

    Everything typed isn't about you.

    But this is...

    Use the search feature on these boards as you come up with problems with borland. There is a lot of good information that has already been written countless times.... to include the "How do I set up the .cfg files FAQ."

    and relax for god's sake!
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    Originally posted by Betazep
    "Maybe you should learn how programs work before you write them."
    That was me who said that
    http://www.cprogramming.com/cboard/s...5&pagenumber=2
    Last edited by Brian; 03-09-2002 at 05:34 PM.

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    clap clap clap clap....
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    Thankyou, thankyou very much.

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    I should hope so.

    I didn't quit when I came to that problem; I wouldn't have posted the question if I had..

    About your 'general' comments: when you make those comments in a reply to something I said, what am I supposed to think? That you just felt like making a point, in my thread?
    It would've helped if you'd referred to that sentence in the first place.. It was only natural to perceive it like I did.


    Linette

    p/s: How do you know which compiler I started off with? (unless you think it was this one)

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