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    Well... That can be true, since I DL almost everything I see that looks interesting... But I've only gotten a virus once! An annoying virus that shows itself, that is :P and it wasn't even my fault -.-
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    Quote Originally Posted by tabstop
    In Vim? :make.
    In emacs? It's C-c, uh, ..., I forgot the key binding but it's one of those mode commands. (Hey I haven't used emacs in years.)
    Vim and emacs are both IDEs

    Actually, although I say that partially in jest, it is only partially: by definition, if there is integration of various tools in the development environment, it is an integrated development environment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CornedBee View Post
    In my current project at work, it doesn't give me an appropriate suggestion about 95% of the times I'm writing an identifier.
    Well, that is a shame, but if it had worked better, then would have agreed that an IDE is better in that sense, yes?

    Alt+Tab, Up Arrow, Enter. Takes maybe half a second as opposed to the quarter of a second that hitting F7 takes. Considering that what happens next is compilation, which takes 5 seconds at least, you'll forgive me if I dismiss this difference as irrelevant.
    And if you compile 100 times a day, that would make:
    IDE: 100 x 0.25 = 25s.
    Editor: 100 x 0.5 = 50s.

    So that pretty much evens out the time it takes to open the IDE anyway. But the thing is that the editor is not superior in any way over an IDE and because an IDE usually packs other stuff close at hand, it usually better to use an IDE.

    You also have to account for the time that you manually type out that compile command that the IDE does for you automatically even the first time around.
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    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
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    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    While we are on the subject of CodeBlocks, is it possible to install CB on a pc that is not currently connected to the internet? I'm asking this seeing as I had problems compiling the last time I tried it.

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    I type "make" in half a second.
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    Two reasons that make editors like SciTE and ViM "better" than VS and such are...

    1) First off they are both completely customizable, which means that you can get rid of any and all crap that you don't want (aka features...).

    2) Lightweight (enough said).

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeTh0Dz View Post
    1) First off they are both completely customizable, which means that you can get rid of any and all crap that you don't want (aka features...).
    Which makes 0 sense unless you tie it with the second point...

    2) Lightweight (enough said).
    Which makes no sense either unless you have starved bandwidth when downloading, or scarce on hard drive space, the second being unlikely.

    And this isn't an argument of VS vs. editors; it's about editors VS IDEs.
    Quote Originally Posted by Adak View Post
    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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