a more advanced technique

This is a discussion on a more advanced technique within the C++ Programming forums, part of the General Programming Boards category; Originally Posted by Elysia Hey now, it's not like Yarin is writing a virus. Yarin has been a member for ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elysia View Post
    Hey now, it's not like Yarin is writing a virus. Yarin has been a member for some time now, so I think it is someone whom we can trust.
    You seriously award trust to people proportionate to how long you've tolerated them?

    I'll let you know when I need blood.

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    I give benefit of doubt to people who have been around long and know the rules and haven't posted a lot of things that got locked/deleted from what I've seen.
    It's that simple.
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    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
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    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    I still think its strange to prohibit talking about cracking/hacking etc. If somebody really wants to learn that he wont be put off by some forum rules and knowing the "dark side" of coding does help to make you a better programmer even when you dont write viruses yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KIBO View Post
    I still think its strange to prohibit talking about cracking/hacking etc. If somebody really wants to learn that he wont be put off by some forum rules and knowing the "dark side" of coding does help to make you a better programmer even when you dont write viruses yourself.
    Then they can find another appropriate forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KIBO View Post
    I still think its strange to prohibit talking about cracking/hacking etc. If somebody really wants to learn that he wont be put off by some forum rules and knowing the "dark side" of coding does help to make you a better programmer even when you dont write viruses yourself.
    That's because it's most often used in ILLEGAL purposes, which we do not condone.
    Besides, mods DO review these cases on a case-by-case basis, as the rules state.
    If it's for legitimate reasons, it's OK.
    Quote Originally Posted by Adak View Post
    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    I understand the reasoning why its forbidden but dont you see my point?

    Now its like that people who want to write viruses do it anyway and people that dont want to do it are kept in the dark forever. The knowledge on virus tricks always helps you, even if you dont want to do "evil" things with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KIBO View Post
    I understand the reasoning why its forbidden but dont you see my point?

    Now its like that people who want to write viruses do it anyway and people that dont want to do it are kept in the dark forever. The knowledge on virus tricks always helps you, even if you dont want to do "evil" things with it.
    Ehm, yes and no. The more places you can find public information about such subject, the more likely it is that some "script monkey" [that is, someone who doesn't know muh him/herself, but can "copy and paste"] will be able to do some harm by using information on this forum. That is why this rule is, it prevents the SPREADING of such information.

    There is a second reason: Some of the members here access the board from work. Websites that have "cracking" content is sometimes black-listed by the nanny-state proxyservers that companies use to prevent "web misuse".

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    Further, it's often illegal to help in aiding people who do bad things.
    And to further the point, some people simply don't want anything to do with people who do bad things.
    Those are 2 more good reasons why the rule exists.
    So again, if you provide that your case is a legitimate one, those "forbidden" techniques doesn't become "forbidden" anymore if the moderators deem it fit to discuss.
    Quote Originally Posted by Adak View Post
    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    you're right

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