Operator Precedence?

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    PC-lint is a very complex tool, easily as complex as a compiler.
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    $230 is expensive. That doesn't mean it's priced incorrectly or not worth it.

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    Agreed, but I was never hinting at that it was incorrectly priced.
    I just feel it's such a shame that the price is so high. Many will not be able to afford such a thing. To companies, it's like sticks and stones, but to private users who just develop on their free time...
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    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
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    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laserlight View Post
    To put that in perspective, Visual Studio 2008 Standard edition costs $299. So, just as such a developer would be forced to do without PC-lint due to the cost issues, he/she would be forced to make do with Visual Studio 2008 Express edition, despite it being targeted at hobbyists and students instead of professional developers. That's life for a lone developer struggling to balance the budget, I guess
    Well VC++ express is free. So if I'm just writting a program for myself at home, that's probably what I'm going to use since I don't really need all the bells & whistles of the Pro edition. But I'd still like to see if I have any bugs that the compiler (for some strange reason) doesn't tell me about. I think this would also be great for students who could barely even notice a simple bug, let alone these subtle ones.
    Anyways, I hope someone at the VC++ team of Microsoft is reading this.

    I don't have a Windows port of gcc available, but do the errors Dave found also get reported on the Windows gcc compilers? If so, that might be one free alternative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpjust View Post
    I don't have a Windows port of gcc available, but do the errors Dave found also get reported on the Windows gcc compilers? If so, that might be one free alternative.
    What I posted was from Code::Blocks' MinGW gcc.
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    I just feel it's such a shame that the price is so high. Many will not be able to afford such a thing. To companies, it's like sticks and stones, but to private users who just develop on their free time...
    A. cry all the way to the bank.
    B. use splint.

    Choose one.

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    $230 is really not a lot of money. It's a bargain! Even for the lone, struggling, non-student developer.

    Cutting on Saturday nights, juggling here and there on spurious expenses, I can imagine a low income programmer being able to buy PC-Lint after, say, 6 months of saving for it. That's really a worst case scenario.

    Looking at those $230 as an investment and not money you throw away in a pair of pants or getting out to the movies, is the key.

    EDIT: The only annoying tidbit being perhaps that you get the same for free if you change to linux
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    The programmer comes home with 12 loaves of bread.


    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    Er... what?! O_o

    Splint isn't even comparable to PC-Lint for C++ source, and I don't know of anything Splint will catch that 'g++ -Wall -Wextra' will not. Heck, for one thing, Splint will happily pass invalid C++ source.

    If you're not talking about Splint I'd love to know what you are talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phantomotap View Post
    Splint isn't even comparable to PC-Lint for C++ source
    That's because Splint doesn't analyze C++ code, but C. However it can, and will detect many problems common to both programming languages if you take the time to set it up to ignore most C++ constructs.

    The point Citizen tried to put across, I believe, is cough up the money or go by with unsuitable tools that will demand a lot of configuration. Or, go by without 'em.
    The programmer’s wife tells him: “Run to the store and pick up a loaf of bread. If they have eggs, get a dozen.”
    The programmer comes home with 12 loaves of bread.


    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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