Newbie compiler for 64-bit systems

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    Newbie compiler for 64-bit systems

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    Im 100% new to programming and is eager to start off with tutorials and such. The problem is, the rekommended bloodshed compiler does not work with my 64 bit windows vista OS.

    Are there some compiler which would be usable and newbie friendly which also works for my windows vista ultimate?

    Thank you

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    Well I can ask a question of my own and possibly answer yours: is there a 64-bit version of Visual Studio Express?
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    Are there some compiler which would be usable and newbie friendly which also works for my windows vista ultimate?
    If I remember correctly, someone did get the MinGW port of g++ to work with Code::Blocks on a 64 bit platform. You could give it a try, perhaps with the IDE+compiler bundle: Code::Blocks 8.02 download page.

    is there a 64-bit version of Visual Studio Express?
    I could not find anything definitive in the Visual Studio Express online FAQ, but I remember something about there being no 64 bit compilers provided for the Express versions. On the other hand, it is possible that the IDE itself may work on a 64 bit platform.
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    Quick replies! I'll get right on to download/try that, thanks.

    We'll see if i can make some sense out of all of this and learn something :P, if i don't, i'll be sure to come back here!

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    Blooshed may just have Vista incompatabilities in general - and may not be a 32bit vs 64bit problem.

    64bit Windows can run 32bit binaries (under WOW64), so you don't absolutely need to create 64bit binaries.

    Looks like both VS 2005 Express and VS 2008 Express support 64bit targets.
    http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...7s(VS.80).aspx

    And they can both run on 64bit machines under WOW64.
    http://download.microsoft.com/downlo... Architectures

    http://www.microsoft.com/express/download/

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    Alright, do you recommend any of these over the others, for a total beginner?

    Iam using the one suggested first by laser right now, and i can't even seem to get the cout function of the first tutorial to work... I don't get the message in the console, and it complains about not "being built" when i run it... Ah well, back to reading and thanks.

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    Alright, do you recommend any of these over the others, for a total beginner?
    The compilers that come with these IDEs are all acceptable. In terms of IDE usage... your mileage may vary, so I find it hard to recommend one over another for a rank beginner.

    Iam using the one suggested first by laser right now, and i can't even seem to get the cout function of the first tutorial to work... I don't get the message in the console, and it complains about not "being built" when i run it... Ah well, back to reading and thanks.
    It sounds like you need to create a project.
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    Goto File -> New -> Project. Select Win32 Console. Follow the wizard and generate your project.
    Now you can enter your code and press F7 to compile and ctrl+F5 to run without debugging (that way, the console window won't disappear).
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    For 99% of the stuff, using a 64 or 32-bit compiler won't make a blind bit of difference (aside from of course the code that the compiler generates is different - but you can't tell from running the application). Yes, the 64-bit x86 variant has more registers, which should help the compiler generate better code. But for small applications, 32-bit code can be just as efficient.

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    Yeah after some bashing my head into the wall i figured out what i needed to do, and is on my way on the beginner tutorials. Do you have any recommendations if you should buy/borrow some books such as those recommended on the site?

    And you've got a nice forum here, lots of replies.

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    There are LOTS of books on C++ out there. You should try to get your hands on the Bjarne Stroustrup book - it's not the best teaching book, but it's THE best book to describe the details when you need that.

    As to a book to learn from, I'll leave that to someone else.

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