AI Contest - Minesweeper

IfYouSaySo · 04-18-2006, 04:01 PM

I'll try either poker or the puzzle; I don't know how to play Risk, so it would make it doubly hard--I have to learn how to play, then I have to program the AI too. I'm pretty slow at this though...I'm still working on my Connect Four solution! But maybe my algorithms from that will come in useful...

IfYouSaySo · 04-18-2006, 04:13 PM

By the way, which poker game are we talking about, 5 card draw, Hold 'em, etc.? And of course betting is involved I assume?

jlou · 04-18-2006, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PJYelton

Whoohoo, got my computer back, too bad I didn't have time to enter minesweeper.

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Originally Posted by IfYouSaySo

I'm pretty slow at this though...I'm still working on my Connect Four solution!

You guys should post a minesweeper solution anyway. I still want more competition, and it would be as much fun for you to do it now even after the official contest is over.

Quantum1024 · 04-18-2006, 04:51 PM

I'm going to vote for poker too.

Darryl · 04-18-2006, 05:04 PM

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The sliding game AI is much easier. The trouble is, most people will probably roll out very similar solutions since the game is so well documented on the internet. I'm not sure how easy it will be to judge?

Yea I noticed that after I originally announced it, that's why I decided to offer some of the others I have in the works. The poker is Texas holdem and I think that's what I am gonna go with as it needs the least work to get ready.

IfYouSaySo · 04-18-2006, 05:22 PM

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The poker is Texas holdem and I think that's what I am gonna go with as it needs the least work to get ready.

Awesome. I'm going to get a head start.

Darryl · 04-23-2006, 05:42 AM

OK I am almost done, took me a little time to figure a good way of keeping track of pot splitting for no-limit. My original framework had a simple betting system that used fixed bets with no raising.

As a final step, I wanted to get a little feedback as to what game info your AI would need?

Here's what methods I provide so far:

list of player and their position
best 5 card hand from 7 cards
rank of hand, ie.. pair, flush, straight, etc.
amount in pot
amount player needs to bet to call
amount in each players bank
player acting as dealer (button position)
your hand and community hand
notification system - relates game play (bets, folds, wins, deal, etc)

let me know if there's something else you need (or want)

Perspective · 04-23-2006, 10:16 AM

Blinds?

Darryl · 04-23-2006, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Perspective

Blinds?

The Blinds get posted automatically (since you can't sit out a hand), part of the notification system will tell who post the large and small blind and the amount. However there is a function that gets the large and small blind amounts

Dante Shamest · 04-23-2006, 12:11 PM

It would probably be a good idea to start a new topic for the new contest.

IfYouSaySo · 04-23-2006, 01:08 PM

I found the following site last week, it details a network protocol for poker bots. You can check for missing functionality in your interface by comarison against this one.

http://games.cs.ualberta.ca/webgames/poker/bots.html

c89c · 04-23-2006, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Darryl

OK I am almost done, took me a little time to figure a good way of keeping track of pot splitting for no-limit. My original framework had a simple betting system that used fixed bets with no raising.

As a final step, I wanted to get a little feedback as to what game info your AI would need?

Here's what methods I provide so far:

list of player and their position
best 5 card hand from 7 cards
rank of hand, ie.. pair, flush, straight, etc.
amount in pot
amount player needs to bet to call
amount in each players bank
player acting as dealer (button position)
your hand and community hand
notification system - relates game play (bets, folds, wins, deal, etc)

let me know if there's something else you need (or want)

I don't know if this is included in the your hand and community hand information, but if not, it would be nice to know suit for some of the higher hands which require spcific suits

Darryl · 04-24-2006, 06:13 AM

a hand is basically a vector of Cards, which is a class that has a suit and a value member as well as functions for reading those values;
I will post what I have later when I get to work in a new thread as dante suggested that way people can start on their design. I was planning on starting a new thread once I had all the code ready to post but I think I will post what I have and ask if someone can make a simple test player. I must admit that when I do these projects I kinda burn myself out in making the framework and be so anxious to post code that I don't feel up to making test players then.

PJYelton · 04-24-2006, 09:21 AM

I'm assuming the blinds will go up after a certain number of hands? If so, then knowing the entire blind structure and the number of hands until the next increase will be useful.

Perspective · 04-24-2006, 10:33 AM

Typically blinds double every round.

04-18-2006, 04:01 PM	#76
IfYouSaySo Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Hermosa Beach, CA Posts: 446	I'll try either poker or the puzzle; I don't know how to play Risk, so it would make it doubly hard--I have to learn how to play, then I have to program the AI too. I'm pretty slow at this though...I'm still working on my Connect Four solution! But maybe my algorithms from that will come in useful... __________________ The crows maintain that a single crow could destroy the heavens. Doubtless this is so. But it proves nothing against the heavens, for the heavens signify simply: the impossibility of crows.
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04-18-2006, 04:13 PM	#77
IfYouSaySo Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Hermosa Beach, CA Posts: 446	By the way, which poker game are we talking about, 5 card draw, Hold 'em, etc.? And of course betting is involved I assume? __________________ The crows maintain that a single crow could destroy the heavens. Doubtless this is so. But it proves nothing against the heavens, for the heavens signify simply: the impossibility of crows.
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04-23-2006, 05:42 AM	#82
Darryl Tropical Coder Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cayman Islands Posts: 503	OK I am almost done, took me a little time to figure a good way of keeping track of pot splitting for no-limit. My original framework had a simple betting system that used fixed bets with no raising. As a final step, I wanted to get a little feedback as to what game info your AI would need? Here's what methods I provide so far: list of player and their position best 5 card hand from 7 cards rank of hand, ie.. pair, flush, straight, etc. amount in pot amount player needs to bet to call amount in each players bank player acting as dealer (button position) your hand and community hand notification system - relates game play (bets, folds, wins, deal, etc) let me know if there's something else you need (or want) __________________ SWinC - Simple Windows Class
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04-23-2006, 10:16 AM	#83
Perspective Crazy Fool Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 2,596	Blinds? __________________ jeff.bagu.org - Terrain rendering and other random stuff
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04-23-2006, 12:11 PM	#85
Dante Shamest Even death may die... Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Malaysia Posts: 970	It would probably be a good idea to start a new topic for the new contest.
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04-23-2006, 01:08 PM	#86
IfYouSaySo Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Hermosa Beach, CA Posts: 446	I found the following site last week, it details a network protocol for poker bots. You can check for missing functionality in your interface by comarison against this one. http://games.cs.ualberta.ca/webgames/poker/bots.html __________________ The crows maintain that a single crow could destroy the heavens. Doubtless this is so. But it proves nothing against the heavens, for the heavens signify simply: the impossibility of crows.
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04-24-2006, 06:13 AM	#88
Darryl Tropical Coder Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cayman Islands Posts: 503	a hand is basically a vector of Cards, which is a class that has a suit and a value member as well as functions for reading those values; I will post what I have later when I get to work in a new thread as dante suggested that way people can start on their design. I was planning on starting a new thread once I had all the code ready to post but I think I will post what I have and ask if someone can make a simple test player. I must admit that when I do these projects I kinda burn myself out in making the framework and be so anxious to post code that I don't feel up to making test players then. __________________ SWinC - Simple Windows Class
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PJYelton Cheesy Poofs! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Boulder Posts: 1,728	I'm assuming the blinds will go up after a certain number of hands? If so, then knowing the entire blind structure and the number of hands until the next increase will be useful.
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