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You took exception to the fact that I told them they can't used the standard library functions to do it - something you didn't tell them. But now you're trying to say "oh, people learn by studying!"

Well then, now that they know that they can't use standard library functions, they have a direction to head, don't they? Otherwise, you have them floundering around in the dark, trying to add color with who knows what functions. So your idea of learning is "go fumble around in the darkness, and ignore that guy handing you a flashlight, he doesn't know what he's talking about!"

You wasted everyone's time here because you were too proud to admit that they have to use compiler specific functions to add color. You started the argument, you also lost the argument. It is no less confusing for me to tell them they can't use the standard library, than it is for you to suggest the blind application of color with no hint or comment.

You're holding on to your foolish Turbo C mentality here, and expecting everyone to use the same compiler and programming methods you do, and you're too proud to admit the fact that someone else here actually knows something.

You cannot add color unless you use non-standard libraries. You are wrong to suggest otherwise, and you are also just too proud to admit the fact that I'm right. You aren't helping them learn by telling them nothing and getting mad when I tell advise them otherwise. That's not helping. That's you looking like a stubborn ass.

I didn't bring that up just to prove you wrong or so you'd start this silly argument. I brought it up so he'd know what to do to get color working.

It's ok to be stubborn when you're right. You aren't right. Nothing you've posted here since my first reply has been right.

Quzah.

Your last post had a better way to distort facts, while appearing to be rational and practical. Should have stuck with it. The above is just sad spin.

I brought it up so he'd know what to do to get color working.

No you didn't! You told him he couldn't do it with standard C functions.

THAT'S my whole gripe about your post - not helpful, and poorly timed.

Originally Posted by Adak

No you didn't! You told him he couldn't do it with standard C functions.

THAT'S my whole gripe about your post - not helpful, and poorly timed.

Sure. We believe you. Back to your post "I want him to research and learn" - What's the first thing he's going to find out? That you can't use standard functions!

Your whole complaint is that I gave him information you didn't. You just come across as a stubborn idiot. You're just mad because I pointed something out that you didn't. I don't think the internet is your thing. Then you got on some high horse about it, like I was harming him in some way for pointing out something you later said he should run along and find on his own.

Also, to your edit I didn't see:

My point with Quzah is that it's confusing for him to post that something can't be done in standard C, right after I post how it can be done, in C.

No you didn't. You didn't point out how it could be done. You said, and I quote:

Use some nice yellow color ... on a blue background

See? You didn't tell him how he could do it. You just said "add color"! That's not showing him anything. And WHY can't you actually show him? Because it's NOT STANDARD and you don't know what compiler he has!


Quzah.

I said he could print it out in color, and it makes it look better.

Any popular OS allows printing color char's in a console window, so what is your point? Your useful point? Oh, that's right, you don't have one.

Your info isn't wrong, it's just poorly timed, and confusing to a noob. You can reply 1,000 times if you like, spin what I say in 1,000 different ways, but you won't change my opinion.

Let a noob decide this. If the OP comes back we'll ask him whether, after reading my post #4 in this thread, and then reading your post #5 in this thread, he believes your post was useful or not.

Cause I know what he's going to say: "Eh no, it's kind of confusing".

You know it, and I know it.

Question 19.3
why don' you learn how to use loop rather than this loading bar??

Originally Posted by Adak

I said he could print it out in color, and it makes it look better.

And I didn't say he shouldn't, did I?

Originally Posted by Adak

Any popular OS allows printing color char's in a console window, so what is your point? Your useful point? Oh, that's right, you don't have one.

Your info isn't wrong, it's just poorly timed, and confusing to a noob. You can reply 1,000 times if you like, spin what I say in 1,000 different ways, but you won't change my opinion.

You come across as someone who takes offense at the slightest suggestion that you may be wrong. If my information is poorly timed, then yours is even worse.

Originally Posted by Adak

Let a noob decide this. If the OP comes back we'll ask him whether, after reading my post #4 in this thread, and then reading your post #5 in this thread, he believes your post was useful or not.

You say he doesn't know about standard functions - yet you expect him to know about color functions that aren't standard, and may or may not be included with his compiler.

Let's assume he's using GCC. It's popular enough. Oh wait, you need to link to another library to use color in GCC! You didn't think about that, did you? Oh, no, you expect him to know how to do that, but you claim he doesn't know about standard functions.

Then you try to argue, "but it's part of learning!" Right. It's part of learning when YOU want him to do research on something to support your flimsy argument, but when I mention something he might have to look into, it's a poorly timed idea. Sorry, but you lose. You lost your whole stupid argument simply because you got hurt by the fact that someone else said your idea wasn't a shiny happy rainbow.

Originally Posted by Adak

You know it, and I know it.

So what? I'm going to pretend I "know it" just so you'll shut up at his point. You come across as someone desperately trying to not lose an argument you started.

I didn't tell you your idea for color was stupid. I simply told him there are no standard color functions. You got all hurt because I implied there is more to adding color than just "add some blue and yellow!"


Quzah.

Originally Posted by Adak

It is not part of standard C, but it's there, it works, and anyone can see the benefit of using it.

No it isn't! It's not standard, so you cannot say "but it's there"! No it isn't! That's what "non-standard" means.

You use Turbo C, so yes, YOU can add color. I use GCC, and unless I grab ncurses, then no I can't, and no it's not there!

Originally Posted by Adak

Well, except Quzah. He prefers seeing the benefit of endlessly arguing his own point of view, and pretending that the C standard was somehow included as part of the original post.

But it wasn't, and he can't change that fact, try as he might.

My own point of view is that it's not standard. You can't dispute that, because it's not standard. You can't say "but it's there", because it's not standard.

That's what non-standard means! It means you can't say "it's there", because it's not guaranteed to be there!

Notice how you were unable to specifically tell him how to set the color? Why is that Adak, please tell me why you can't tell him what function to call to set the color. Go on smart guy. Tell me why you can't tell me a function that is guaranteed to be there for me on any random C compiler I might happen to be using.

You're so smart, so tell me what function sets color.

Edit - and I'm not the one that turned this into an argument. You are. The reason I'm arguing "my point", is because I'm right, and you're wrong. You can't really expect me to say I'm wrong when I'm completely 100% right.


Quzah.

Originally Posted by Adak

And for the 5th time the OP never mentioned the C standard. That was never a part of the OP's post, or of mine.

So what. I mentioned it. I let him know that he can't use the standard library to get color. Stop being so bent out of shape about it.

Originally Posted by Adak

All this other "argument" you pretend I'm making, is just you and your imagination, arguing one against the other.

Since it's just you, arguing against your own imagination, rather than reality, I think you can stop and claim victory any time.

You're an idiot.

Originally Posted by Adak

Well, except Quzah. He prefers seeing the benefit of endlessly arguing his own point of view,

Originally Posted by Adak

it's just poorly timed, and confusing to a noob. You can reply 1,000 times if you like, spin what I say in 1,000 different ways, but you won't change my opinion.

Originally Posted by Adak

No you didn't! You told him he couldn't do it with standard C functions. THAT'S my whole gripe about your post - not helpful, and poorly timed.

Originally Posted by Adak

People learn by studying and practicing - not by being confused. Yes, it does matter.

That sure looks like arguing to me. Oh, and YOU were the one that started it.

No one here insisted he said "how can I do this in standard". For that matter, color wasn't part of the OP. So I should jump on you for even mentioning color. But I didn't. I simply said that he couldn't do it with standard functions. Furthermore, I wouldn't be "arguing my own point", if YOU didn't get all upset because I said it wasn't standard. Because if YOU didn't get all upset, I wouldn't have made more than one post in this thread. You keep insisting that you're right and I'm wrong. I'm not wrong. I'm right. I'm not going to admit I'm wrong when I'm not.

Your whole argument is that I brought up something he would have found out on his own if he took your approved style of learning. Except he wouldn't have just found it out, he would have come back and said "How do I do color?", to which, we all would have said, "It depends on your compiler, because there is no standard way to do it." So your entire argument is that I provided him a piece of information that YOU didn't want me to provide him.

You're the one who started the argument. You're just an idiot. I have to say that this, combine with your earlier continued teaching that it was OK to modify string literals because YOUR COMPILER allowed it, makes you one of the dumbest people I've met here. You constantly insist on teaching your non-standard C then get all worked up when someone says it's not standard. You're just an idiot.

I have nothing nice to say to you.


Quzah.

I don't think there's any concern about my derailing the thread by saying:

This is one of the most entertaining threads I've ready in awhile.

The OP didn't mention entertainment! HOW DARE YOU, SIR!


Quzah.

Your info isn't wrong, it's just poorly timed, and confusing to a noob. You can reply 1,000 times if you like, spin what I say in 1,000 different ways, but you won't change my opinion.

Let the OP decide this. If the OP comes back we'll ask him whether, after reading my post #4 in this thread, and then reading your post #5 in this thread, he believes your post was useful or not.

Cause I know what he's going to say: "Eh no, it's kind of confusing".

You know it, and I know it.

OK, maybe you don't know it.

I like the way you spin it away from the topic:

** About Turbo C
** About my use of Turbo C
** About the C standard
etc.

But that's just you, arguing with yourself - again. It's entertaining, especially how you take my words out of my context, and try to wrap them into your own argument.

Your name calling is not too convincing yet, but I believe you're getting better at it.

My point was that your post in #5, was confusing to a noob, at that time.

You have nothing nice to say to me?

Woe is me, now that I have this heavy, heavy burden.