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    C++ is an object oriented language but...

    I see there's an object oriented version of C? Where'd that come from and what benefits does it have over C++??

    http://www.planetpdf.com/codecuts/pdfs/ooc.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by m&m
    WI see there's an object oriented version of C? Where'd that come from and what benefits does it have over C++??
    You should read the article yourself. As for benefits: if you have access to a C compiler, but not a C++ (or other language for which OO is a common paradigm) compiler, and want to use object oriented programming, then knowing how to apply object oriented techniques in C would be useful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by m&m View Post
    benefits ... over C++??
    What, never!

    I wonder if the fact that you posted a dead link is meant to somehow be symbolic here
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    Quote Originally Posted by iMalc
    I wonder if the fact that you posted a dead link is meant to somehow be symbolic here
    Change the ampersand to a question mark, or entirely remove what was supposed to be the query string.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bjarne Stroustrup (2000-10-14)
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    The apparently "fixed" URL still doesn't work.
    Obj-C is kind of an alien language, too. It follows not the syntax of C, which C++ extends to OOP.
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    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
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    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.
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    Actually it does, legal C is legal Obj-C.
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    I didn't say wouldn't work. But look at some Obj-C code and it looks kindof alien to a C programmer. Hence my remark on how it didn't follow the syntax of C.
    Quote Originally Posted by Adak View Post
    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
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    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.
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    Ok I agree, it certainly looks more like regular C, than Obj-C does.
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    The correct link: Object-oriented Programming with ANSI-C. It is the somewhat well known book on the topic. It is not about Objective-C.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bjarne Stroustrup (2000-10-14)
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    Looks like another book I'll have to read
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