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    Question expression evaluation

    Hi,


    Although the expression *((a<20)?&b:&c)=30; works but

    ((a<20)?b:c)=30 gives

    error: invalid lvalue in assignment.

    what could be the reason for it? Please need sum urgent help.

    Thanks in advance.

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    The result of the left hand side of:
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    ((a<20)?b:c)=30
    is a value (the value stored in either b or c). Let's say for example that b is 20 and c is 30. If a is 10 then the result of the left-hand side is 20 and you are effectively trying to say:
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    20=30
    which would of course give you that error.
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    Question Help in assigment stmt.

    full program:
    Code:
    main()
    {
      int a=10,b,c;
      ((a<20)?b:c)=30;
      printf("%d",b);
     }
    this also gives error invalid lvalue in assignment.

    but if i replace the line with *((a<20)?&b:&c)=30; it works.

    please explain also why the second one works .

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    Quote Originally Posted by lazy_hack
    but if i replace the line with *((a<20)?&b:&c)=30; it works.

    please explain also why the second one works .
    You are assigning to what the corresponding pointer points to, and that is not a problem. Where did you come across this code, anyway? It looks like a lazy hack, or rather, bad style.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lazy_hack View Post
    full program:
    Code:
    main()
    {
      int a=10,b,c;
      ((a<20)?b:c)=30;
      printf("%d",b);
     }
    this also gives error invalid lvalue in assignment.

    but if i replace the line with *((a<20)?&b:&c)=30; it works.

    please explain also why the second one works .
    In the code above b and c are having garbage values, that's why as told to you in post#2, it'll give you error, while using & you are directly "attacking" in the address, thus no error.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BEN10
    In the code above b and c are having garbage values, that's why as told to you in post#2, it'll give you error, while using & you are directly "attacking" in the address, thus no error.
    That is off the mark. That b and c were not initialised does not matter, since the intention is to assign a value to them. What matters is that the result of the conditional operator is not an lvalue, hence the attempted assignment does not work.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bjarne Stroustrup (2000-10-14)
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    I think hk_mp5kpdw's post is also wrong then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BEN10
    I think hk_mp5kpdw's post is also wrong then.
    What do you find wrong about it? hk_mp5kpdw made the point that the result of the conditional operator is not a variable that can be assigned to, but a value that cannot be assigned to.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bjarne Stroustrup (2000-10-14)
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    From hk_mp5kpdw's post, let b has a value of 12345 in the code given by the OP, then this will happen
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    12345=30;
    That's why the error. This is what I said in my previous post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BEN10 View Post
    In the code above b and c are having garbage values, that's why as told to you in post#2, it'll give you error, while using & you are directly "attacking" in the address, thus no error.
    No you said this. But as laserlight pointed out that the uninitialized b and c are not a problem here. The problem is the assignment being checked

    for example as in your case

    12345 = 30 // this is wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by BEN10
    That's why the error. This is what I said in my previous post.
    Fair enough: looking at your post #5 again, I see that I missed the phrase "as told to you in post#2". It would have been clearer if you had given an example there and then, or at least suggested the scenario where 20 and 30 were the "garbage" values of b and c respectively.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bjarne Stroustrup (2000-10-14)
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    thanks for the explanation...

    "the result of the conditional operator is not an lvalue" line is the crux i believe...

    the code was from test ur c skills book....just anther intrsting book..

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