Weird twisters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
    That will get you killed.
    Well, yeah. But then I think most of the sayings are going to be different for stormchasers vs. people deciding whether to stay in the kitchen or go down into the basement. (The power's been out for hours anyway by this point, and the AM radio sounds the same either way.) Although, even Dad went down to the basement the night of the Greensburg system, even though he didn't "see" anything.

    Now I'm on the east coast so no more tornadoes for me. Now all I have to worry about is hurricanes.
    Ditto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elysia View Post
    The irony is that people are stupid enough to build stuff in tornado areas.
    You seem to have uninformed, obnoxious opinions on everything.

    I live within sight of Mount St. Helens. Ash fell on my house in 1980 (that's when I was living several hundred MILES away from it). Mount Rainier is less than 200 miles to the north, and is a known active volcano. The city of Tacoma WA is built on top of lahar deposits from this volcano from less than 500 years ago. The entire Northwest is also threatened by massive tsunamis from superthrust earthquakes. I suppose you think we should evacuate all of Seattle and Portland.

    Moving on let's examine California. Again, numerous large earthquakes and tsunami danger. Massive wildfires in the autumn. Let's clear the whole damn state.

    How about Wyoming, home of the supervolcano at Yellowstone, the eruptions of which have devastated over 40% of the present land mass of the USA in the past? Oh, and we're "due for" another one. So let's clear out the Rocky Mountain areas.

    Texas, Louisiana, Alabama, Florida? All have been slammed by huge hurricanes causing billions in damage.

    Missouri? Think you're safe there? Think again. It has suffered earthquakes powerful enough to erase islands from the middle of the Mississippi river, and was felt in Washington DC. Evacuate!

    It also stops costing the state a lot of money to rebuild that which is going to be destroyed again.
    Tyrannical thinking. The state exists to serve its people, not the other way around. If people want to live in a particular place then that is how it is. You have no say in it, and thankfully so.

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    Yes, let everyone go ahead and get killed and blame the government for it! Yes, let the government pay for all those damages and rip the rest of the world off for money to rebuild for you who just have to live there instead of spending that money on making the country a better place. Getting rid of criminality, giving the homeless people a place to live. Making a social system where the government pays for schools, hospitals, etc, etc.
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    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
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    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elysia View Post
    Yes, let everyone go ahead and get killed and blame the government for it! Yes, let the government pay for all those damages and rip the rest of the world off for money to rebuild for you who just have to live there instead of spending that money on making the country a better place. Getting rid of criminality, giving the homeless people a place to live. Making a social system where the government pays for schools, hospitals, etc, etc.
    If you want to make the country a better place by evacuating dangerous regions, then the country is going to empty out. Get out of your basement.

    The government is made of people. It exists to serve them. Wake up.

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    Missouri? Think you're safe there? Think again. It has suffered earthquakes powerful enough to erase islands from the middle of the Mississippi river, and was felt in Washington DC. Evacuate!
    You'd have to evacuate the entire Midwest as well because of the New Madrid fault. There is more pressure on this fault than has ever been on the San Andreas. Last time it caused a quake it re-routed a river and put an entire town under water.

    The key is to be aware of your area and the natural events that can affect it. If you are prepared then most likely living through these things, while scary during the event, is possible in all but the rarest cases. Quakes are different b/c they give little warning but weather gives you plenty of warning with the technology we have now.
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    Yes, let the government pay for all those damages and rip the rest of the world off for money to rebuild for you who just have to live there instead of spending that money on making the country a better place
    You surely understand this either puts you in the 9 years old scale of things or, on the other hand you are desperate and instead of admitting you are wrong (it's ok. We all are sometimes) you prefer resorting to arguments that people even have an hard time replying to.
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    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    Yes, it exists to serve them, not damn them which is what they're doing when they let people live in the dangerous areas. They help people get killed. They help people get poor. They help screwing off other people to help those who were hurt by tornadoes or such, which could be avoided if people just didn't live there! And considering the milliards of dollars that could be saved, I really dare imagine what they could be used for. USA has so many problems, and yet they spend all their money on friggin' military and building up destroyed areas after tornadoes!

    Well, let's have the government wake up. Don't just rebuild blindly in the area. Evacuate what was destroyed into other areas as much as possible as think of other ideas or persuasion to get people out of there.
    It's stupid to live there in the first place, seeing as we don't have the technology to stop natural disaster to occur.
    Prioritize big disaster areas first, then the smaller ones. It will make wonders to the country, you'll see.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mario F. View Post
    You surely understand this either puts you in the 9 years old scale of things or, on the other hand you are desperate and instead of admitting you are wrong (it's ok. We all are sometimes) you prefer resorting to arguments that people even have an hard time replying to.
    It is true to an extent what I state. The last time there was a big tornado, they messed up big time on predicting the size of it and it caused devastation for milliards of dollars. The big might states o' mightiness even had to ask for help from other countries to finance reconstruction and help affected people.
    None of which might have happened if they didn't live there in the first place.
    Believe it or not, but I'm not ignorant of how the world works. No, we're probably never going to move out of those areas because we're too stubborn. That's just the way it works.
    And that's what's annoying me too. People can be so stupid. It's like if they're not even trying to get away from the areas. Instead they put resources into trying to prevent the natural disasters from occurring, when they could evacuate big disaster areas to avoid it altogether.
    It seems like they can't do disaster prevention right nor evacuation right, so what's to do? They lose lots of money that could be spent elsewhere on these silly matters and lives are lost in the process. Aren't lives what is important?

    These ordeals annoy me to no end. That's all.
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    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    Just in case you were misinformed we actually profit quite well from natural disasters. They are a boost to the economy as a whole. This is not to say they are not a tragedy or minimize the death toll and its impact on the people involved, but usually the only ones who really suffer financially are the insurance companies and the uninsured. The people who rebuild the area usually make a small fortune. Sad but true.

    You cannot stick your head in the sand and refuse to live anywhere something bad might happen. Tornado alley encompasses Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Missouri and on up north to Minnesota. That's a helluva lot of real estate to just ignore. So you wanna evacuate Dallas, TX eh and just sorta tell everyone to live elsewhere?

    Sorry Elysia I just don't agree with you on this one.
    Last edited by VirtualAce; 02-06-2008 at 07:59 PM.

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    As I told you, and dwks illustrated you would send USA into a recession.
    The US economy is already in recession .
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    The US economy is already in recession .
    So we are being told by the mass media. All the indicators are not there, however. But if the mass media can let everyone 'perceive' there is a recession...then yeah we could be in one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elysia View Post
    Aren't lives what is important?
    Free will has no value to you?

    I'm decently convinced that you're in high school by this point. "Programming master." Okay, whatever.

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    ...back on the topic of the twisters.....

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    No it's not.

    Trust me, you will know for sure when it is.

    Meanwhile, technically what happened is that the economy slowed down. There is still hope the recent packages (involving not only domestic economy, but also the UE and asia countries) will avoid the recession.
    The programmer’s wife tells him: “Run to the store and pick up a loaf of bread. If they have eggs, get a dozen.”
    The programmer comes home with 12 loaves of bread.


    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    Yes back on twisters... sorry...
    The programmer’s wife tells him: “Run to the store and pick up a loaf of bread. If they have eggs, get a dozen.”
    The programmer comes home with 12 loaves of bread.


    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    Following up on the evacuation theme, we are talking only about the US here. What about Turkey earthquakes, Sourthern Asia typhons (heck here alone you would have to evacuate all of the philipines, indonesia and surrounding islands), Japan earthquakes and vulcanoes (the whole country had to be evacuated. There is no such thing as a safe place in Japan)...
    The programmer’s wife tells him: “Run to the store and pick up a loaf of bread. If they have eggs, get a dozen.”
    The programmer comes home with 12 loaves of bread.


    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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