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    There is nowhere near the plethora of tools for 3D content creation as there is for 2D. Additionally, mathwise, 2D is downright simple, and most of it boils down to loading a few images and blitting them to the appropriate location.
    There are far more tools for 3D content creation today than ever. As I said before perhaps you can blit in SDL but from the perspective of OGL and D3D this is not so. Blitting is 100% not available in Direct3D and requires you create textured quads to do any type of 2D graphics.

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    The 2d hardware acceleration capabilities of graphics cards are not gone. It's true that the newer DirectX APIs provide no means of accessing them (ever since DirectDraw vanished in DX 8), but they're still there, and still exposed through old DirectDraw versions.
    If they were gone, 2d games like StarCraft would crawl on modern computers. CPUs are faster, but blitting is still something only the hardware really does well enough.
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    As of DX10 everything from DX7 back is gone AFAIK. So relying on blitting is not going to get you anywhere except in redevelopment later.

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    I've just had a look over the "main" indentation article and it seems... well, horrible. At least compared to my own in the sense that it just shows an example of poor indentation, indents it properly and makes the reader note the changes it made. No explanations, no rules, no help, no tips, etc.
    I just don't think it will do! I've been trying to link to my own draft to see if I can collect opinions and suggestions and at this point, it really seems that there's no other wiki article to link to other than my own draft. And the question still remains which one to use. Or if to merge, what to merge.
    Confusion is never a good thing...
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    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
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    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    it really seems that there's no other wiki article to link to other than my own draft. And the question still remains which one to use. Or if to merge, what to merge.
    Confusion is never a good thing...
    That's a shame; I admit the wiki leaves a lot to be desired but we've only written about twelve things. There's still much to be desired in general. I'd like to think we've done better than that in the beginning.

    Also, I'm not sure what you're calling confusing exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
    As of DX10 everything from DX7 back is gone AFAIK.
    Well, we don't want to upgrade to Vista anyway, do we?
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    Quote Originally Posted by citizen View Post
    That's a shame; I admit the wiki leaves a lot to be desired but we've only written about twelve things. There's still much to be desired in general. I'd like to think we've done better than that in the beginning.
    I believe I worded it wrong.
    I meant the indentation article (main one) leaves a lot to be desired.
    The other articles are fine We're coming along fine.

    Also, I'm not sure what you're calling confusing exactly.
    Confusing in that we have two indentation articles and the "main" one leaves a lot to be desired.
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    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
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    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    Confusing in that we have two indentation articles and the "main" one leaves a lot to be desired.
    Please demonstrate some patience on this issue.

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    I think now is a good time to ask this:
    For what purpose is the wiki intended? To explain or cover in-depth material such as how to properly indent or to simply explain what indentation is?
    Citizen seem to cover the later, to write short articles that explains something but does not cover how to properly indent, for example.
    While I believe that indentation is an important thing and like to write in-depth articles to guide and make sure people are taught the correct thing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Adak View Post
    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    Citizen seem to cover the later
    "latter". "Later" refers to time -- "I'll get around to it later on" -- and "latter" refers to the last item, the opposite of former.

    Anyway. I think the indentation articles can be merged. I'll give it a shot in a while and see what happens, creating a third article in the process.

    Sorry I haven't been working on the Wiki lately -- I've been very busy. (Mostly with writing xuni. )
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwks View Post
    "latter". "Later" refers to time -- "I'll get around to it later on" -- and "latter" refers to the last item, the opposite of former.
    I know, but it sounds stupid with "latter" to me so I always use "later."
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    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    You can't just change language just because it sounds stupid to you.
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    It's such a small thing, I doubt it will ever matter to people.
    Quote Originally Posted by Adak View Post
    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    Evidently it mattered to me! How would you like it if I speled words without double leters just because I thought it loked beter? Ouch. (Yes, I know "later" is a word and "loked" isn't, but still.)

    About syntax highlighting -- does anyone else think GeSHi should be installed on the Wiki? I'd use codeform, except for political reasons, and installation issues. Installing codeform would probably be a big hassle. Codeform might be faster than GeSHi, but at least GeSHi is written in PHP and should be relatively simple to install. Plus it also supports Perl and stuff in case we should want to highlight other languages.
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    > It's such a small thing, I doubt it will ever matter to people.
    I was wondering if English was your mother tongue.

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