View Poll Results: What religion do you identify with?

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  • Christian (includes Catholic, mormon, Christian Science, etc.)

    18 34.62%
  • Islam

    3 5.77%
  • Buddhist

    3 5.77%
  • Hinduism

    1 1.92%
  • Atheist

    12 23.08%
  • Other

    10 19.23%
  • Agnostic

    5 9.62%

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This is a discussion on Religion within the A Brief History of Cprogramming.com forums, part of the Community Boards category; lol! Drakken, i'll be saving that one. >>Ahhh yes, but God is not physical.... so the idea that God had ...

  1. #151
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    lol! Drakken, i'll be saving that one.


    >>Ahhh yes, but God is not physical.... so the idea that God had to be "created" is not applicable.
    Uhh... What? The idea that only physical things need be created is also not a very sound one.
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    >>"Which is it, is man one of God's blunders or is God one of man's?" -Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche

    "I cannot believe in a God who wants to be praised all the time." -Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
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    Oh good! Nietzsche! He created the idea of a "superman" who should crush all the weaklings of society. Where do you think Hitler got that idea?

    You may as well have quoted a Satanist...

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    At the beggining...i was skeptical...confused...I didnt know what to think. You might say I was lost. But garf and company have shown me the light...religion was greated to control weak minded individuals.
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    >>"Religion is for the weak ones."

    Really, I'd LOVE you to elaborate on that, because I have the sneaking suspiscion that your'e dead wrong...
    I posted that a little while ago...an accusation without proof is just that...

    As far as you know we believe you a weakling among weaklings in the brains department for not having the strength to take the leap of faith.

    I happen to believe that most athiests are just scared that if they actually believe in something and get their noses out of a physics book they'll be seen as weak, so they go on living their lives by scientific principals and the like...Don't get me wrong. I like science. I actually love my current science teacher because she joyfully points out where science provides proof to various religous things.

    But really, I think that if you opened your mind and your eye to religion you'd understand clearer all that's been said here, instead of glowering and grunting "religion is for the weak".

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    Tell me, atheists, what do you believe happens when you die? Nothing, right? Darkness? Boredom? What one might call, "end". Are you afraid to die because fear of...nothing? I'm not at all afraid to die. Because I know that it will only be the beginning! The beginning of a new life eternally with God. Full of happiness and bliss.

    Hmmm..."nothing", or a happy and eternal life with Jesus and God. I think I know which one I'm going to choose. I hope you choose the same, too...

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    >> But garf and company have shown me the light...religion was greated to control weak minded individuals. <<

    Why do you keep saying this? You are trying to prove something to yourself. Because it doesn't affect me at the least bit. You see, my friend, you are the weak one!
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    Uh oh. This is beggining to degenerate. If left unchecked this would be the point where this thread loses it. And this has been one of the most constructive, least abusive, threads on this subject i've seen yet.


    >>Are you afraid to die because fear of...nothing? I'm not at all afraid to die.
    Same here. Why would one be afraid of nothing? By definition there's nothing to be afraid of...

    >>Hmmm..."nothing", or a happy and eternal life with Jesus and God. I think I know which one I'm going to choose.
    Were i suddenly confronted with this choice i would choose the former. I'd like to think that mt time here is at least a little meaningful. It makes time worth spending and life worth living if you've only got so much of it to spare. If i've got an unlimited amount of it, why do i care what i do with it?

    But to reitterate my earlier point: I'm not trying to anger or convince anyone here of anything. I just enjoy the disccusion. Its constructive. We're all learning how other people think.
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    >religion was greated to control weak minded individuals.

    you DONT EVEN PAY ATTENTION!

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    did you know athiesm can be classified as a religion?
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    >religion was greated to control weak minded individuals.

    I have to say i dont 100% agree with this. More like 60%. It appears (at least to me, and from my own possibly biased view of events) that religion was created as a means to easily lend a semblance of order, and thus control, over a widespread population. I'd have to argue the weak minded point. Granted, i know more weaker minded types who are devout church goers (consider that i dont say 'deeply religious types' because i am being specific about the church part) than those that do not. However i do know some very strong minds that do. There is something about the faithful church going crowd that i see as slightly different from the faithful worshipper crowd. The aformentioned first crowd does tend to attract a more... lets say... insecure... person IMHO.

    I've been to churches before so i'm not just making things up here. I even attended a Bible camp twice (they had sweeeeet paintball games, ok?), so its not like i'm talking through the hole in my head. I dont activly participate in discussions of which the content is foreign to me. I dont much like relying solely on other peoples experiences to back up my opinions. I like the first-hand variety. I'm not saying this makes me right i'm just pointing out that i'm only throwing out things here that i've seriously considered and not just stuff i'm saying in reaction.
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    >Uhh... What? The idea that only physical things need be created is also not a very sound one.

    Uhhh... why?
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    If "god" has existed forever, then explain why the physical universe cant have existed forever as well? If the universe must have been created at some point then why does nothing else follow the same principal?
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    If God isn't physical then nothing needs to create him.... think about it. If you can't comprehend its okay, give yourself a few years, gain a little wisdom, and then maybe you will be able to....
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    >>If God isn't physical then nothing needs to create him
    ... ... Why? I may not be a master of physics but whos to say this is the truth? If something exists that does not need to be created then it is plausable that physical matter, also doesnt not need to be created. If something has one property it becomes concievable that another things may have that same property. I'm not saying that its a fact, i'm just demonstrating that this particular argument is ineffective.
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    >>> it hurts to agree with Marx, but you have to give the devil his due(ignore the pun).
    >Why?
    Not sure what your asking, why does it hurt to agree with Marx? mainly because i am violently anti-communist, communism is one of the view things i hate. But thats another thread

    >and so Darlen, you believe on mas word over another?
    No-One, first spell my name right, its Da/L/ren, second, due to what i think is a typo im not sure what your asking.

    >neither are a result of Christianity, both are a result of the ambition of men using religion as a scapegoat.
    If these had been started by random people and they did it in the name of Christianity that would be one thing, but these were started by the top of the catholic hierachy.

    >Do not judge all Christendom by the Roman Catholics , there are many "sects"
    Yes I know, it was a slightly unfair generalization, but most of my comments were ment as general and not restriced to catholics, with an exception of going to confess ones sins

    >Oh good! Nietzsche! He created the idea of a "superman" who should crush all the weaklings of society. Where do you think Hitler got that idea?
    Stealth, that may be one interpretation, and you could say that Stalin got all his ideas from Marx, and blame Marx for all those that Stalin killed, second just because he came up with one bad theory doesnt mean everything he said was pointless.

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    Actually, its you who are weak for needing something to happen after you die. You can';t accept that nothing happens. You need 'santa clause' to exist so you can live happily ever after...for eternity. Theres the clincher...man doesnt want to die...so in his wisdom he sets himself up for eternity. Is it a pleasant thought? Yes. I'd love it if that were the case. Id jump for joy. Same as I would if I learned there actually was an easter bunny. That would seriously make my day. Everyday I walk around I wish for soemhting like that. How seet itd be. The easter bunny, god, anything that would make it so this pointless existance had some magic, or a point. But...it aint lookin good. At least I have you hooligans and your fantasys to keep hope alive.

    You might say...oh you sad guy..it doesnt have to be that way! accept god. why live so terribly! Well I say to you..F-off. Beleive in santa clause...thats gotto make anyone feel better...wait..you cant? its hard to beleive in a load of ..........? Sucks doesnt it? I hope you don't realize what life actually is...that your precious afterlife is a hell of a mind crutch...cause damnit..i dont want anyone to cry.
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