an intersting arguement

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    an intersting arguement

    an interesting arguement raised to support hackers.
    http://www.iainpb.co.uk/forums/uploa...hp?threadid=53
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    I wish I knew how to hack
    Spose I'd need linux and a f(ph)at book on networking if I wanted to get anywhere.

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    youd need Unix (preferably with Root access), an intimate knowledge of Win 2000, Win NT , Unix, tcp/ip...
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    Originally posted by Brian
    I wish I knew how to hack
    Spose I'd need linux and a f(ph)at book on networking if I wanted to get anywhere.
    LoL, as much as some hackers would say you need it, you really don't. Just a telnet program, and maybe a good port/ip scanner. Then you can go on the net and read tutorials, and you can hack really easy. It's not as hard as some hackers would say it is.
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    Yeah but:
    I don't have a clue how to hide/spoof my IP address
    I only have a small idea how TCP/IP works
    and if I get caught I'll be very ........ed off.

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    are there any servers up atm for legal hacking for me to practice on?

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    ur absolutely right

    most hackers (try talking to them on yahoo or irc) would have you belive they are super intelligent beings, this is a massive cover up. The truth is with a few tools anyone can hack.

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    Just point me to some tutorials on hacking. Most I've seen have been so-called hackers babbling on about how good they are. Do you know any good tutorials?

    I want to hack because:
    *I'm curious.
    *I want to know how it's done.
    *I want to know how it's done to me.
    *Sounds like fun.

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    Alright, Brian, people aren't BORN hackers. They have to learn. Just go on to www.google.com, and search for hacker tutorials.

    >>I don't have a clue how to hide/spoof my IP address
    I only have a small idea how TCP/IP works
    and if I get caught I'll be very ........ed off.<<

    LoL, I didn't even know what these were when I started to learn how to hack. Most hacking isn't done illegally. Just go on to a wargames server. People set them up, and you are suppose to try to hack them. Hacking is so simple, all you REALLY need is telnet, which comes with every Windows release. You don't even need a port/IP scanner, although it makes things easier.

    Generally, hackers usually don't identify with Virii and Trojan Horse writers, nor do most do anything illegal. You probably won't get caught if you just stay within the bounds of the law.
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    Hmm I don't know about wargames servers...I'm on a my win2k laptop, directly plugged into the phone line, no firewall (not even zonealarm). It is fully patched though

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    well actually...with tools you basically become a tool yourself...stay away from tools except for the occasional portscan....

    Brian, you're making me laugh: "If I get caught...", "I don't know how to spoof..."

    Really, I don't know how to spoof my IP either, and as long as I don't do something illegal what am I gonna get caught for? And most admins won't bug you so long as you don't portscan their computers.

    Yes, there are servers for you to test your stuff on. Do a search or something. Go to http://happyhacker.org I remember there were some links to servers there somewhere...

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    >>Hmm I don't know about wargames servers...I'm on a my win2k laptop, directly plugged into the phone line, no firewall (not even zonealarm). It is fully patched though<<

    YOU don't get hacked in wargame servers, but you try to hack the server.

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    Sorry if I sound like a script kiddie.

    I guess I am in a way. But I'm pretty new to this, so give me a break please. I misread the bit about the wargames servers, again, sorry.

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    hooking up to a server run by hackers sounds like an invitation to disaster to me, especially if your not using a firewall.

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    well actually...with tools you basically become a tool yourself...stay away from tools except for the occasional portscan....
    I'm getting quite good at sockets now, so I see no need for pre-made SK tools. I'm not gonna sink that low

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