Technology's effects on society

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    Why read a book when I can download stuff to read later? I bought a pda to do that with
    I meant that PDAs are more efficient than books, literally. My pda can resume at any page, any sentence. I can download a book to view wherever I have batteries. Only the medium where the words appear has changed. There is plenty of original reading material on the Internet.

    When I looked away I saw the 7 year old next to me with his eyes glued to the screen with a blank expression on his face.
    Before I type anything else, I'm assuming a "Saving Private Ryan" level of gore, because I have never seen the movie.
    A blank expression could mean anything, like suprise, shock, fear, excitement, etc. I don't know what the 7-year-old kid was thinking at the time. I believe that kids are desensitized to TV/movie violence. Movie makers try to make their movie as realistic as possible to compensate. But violence on the screen doesn't necessarily mean real violence.

    Should a 7-10 year old really be watching MTV and its idolazation of sex?
    Personally, I almost never watch MTV. I think the music videos, shows, almost everything is too pop-culture flavored. It lacks anything interesting.
    However, I think that 7-10 year olds have the right to watch MTV. If they like its content they should be able to watch it. Kids are more influenced by each other than by some tv show. If a funny moment on 'Daria' helps get a conversation started, why not?
    I believe MTV is too sex-oriented. But I don't think the idolazation of sex hurts kids.

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    i feel that morale is nature... and that it cannot be changed... [if you are familiar with my online persona then you'd probably understand why i feel this better...] it makes me feel lucky to have been reprocessed in this lyfe to be in a realization such...

    but others say it's nurture... why is that? i'd like to find out whether or not there is a corelation between a beings purpose and a beings predisposition to reality... in a continuing lyfe-stream which extends over tyme, the predisposition does not exist [since tyme is arbitrary]... but rather if one is called such, it is refreshed at each renewal...
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    it's ok, we're not flaming each other, you don't need to change the subject. its a lively debate.
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    oh, well good night, and sorry i inadvertently changed the subject...

    speaking of which, where's garfield? he was the religious guy, and he would have a definitive declination to my belief that time is arbitrary wouldn't he?
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    if i am understanding what you r saying... im slow and i dunt understand big words... u r saying that we r born w/ our attitudes by way of nature... well true... that would explain why i have been exposed to violence yet i am not a murderer... and someone else could be exposed to the same violence and be a murderer... but if this were so... people would never change... or have the ability to change... but... people do

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    Ok...first of all I realize that I have probably come accross diffrently than I feel so I should probably try and clear that up.

    I do not dislike the technology, on he conrary I think it is all a wonderful thing and I wouldn't give it up. The problem I have with it is simply how fast we've chosen to move with it. Essentially our lives, and the way we get information, have sped up at the same rate as processors have, and that I believe to be very bad.

    I misunderstood what you were saying about PDA's, you are totally right they are awsome! lol I want one.


    A blank expression could mean anything, like suprise, shock, fear, excitement, etc. I don't know what the 7-year-old kid was thinking at the time. I believe that kids are desensitized to TV/movie violence. Movie makers try to make their movie as realistic as possible to compensate. But violence on the screen doesn't necessarily mean real violence.
    (yes Saving Private Ryan violence levels, along with some 3 Kings gut shot to boot)

    You're right the kid could've been thinking anything, and he probably was desensitized to it. But this exact thing is the problem I think. In our fast paced world we have learned to take our cues from TV on how we should act. And while many kids may know the diffrence there will always be those who don't.

    As fo MTV: #1 I totally agree way over sexed etc.

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    Kids are more influenced by each other than by some tv show. If a funny moment on 'Daria' helps get a conversation started, why not?
    You're totally right they are much more influenced by other kids, but they are also heavily influenced b those slightly older than they are.

    Change your example, instead of Daria, what are kids going to think about say MTV Spring Break which will run non-stop for a month coming up soon? A show that is nothing but sex, sex, a little music, sex, jerry springer, and then sex. (In my personal unbaised lol opinion) Kids do start taking cues from this. I have been around a lot of kids, and I will see kids the same age (11-12), one of which wants to sit alone and talk about sex and making out constantly and to whom a major issue was when some of his friends were smoking and he yelled at them for it, but they got mad at him for yelling and kept smoking, and a second kid who only cared about goofying around and playing sports.

    Prehaps I am over reacting. And I do truely beleieve that the positives of technology are incredable, I wouldn't knowhow to program if I didn't. However, I think that we have allowed technology to speed our own lives up to the point that we allow TV, MTV, Movies and video games to teach our kids instead of the good ol'baseball dimond and playing with other kids.

    I think the technology is great, we just use it improperly. Prehaps given time to adjust to this high paced world we will do better. For now though I think the rapid movement puts a strain on us all, from fast food because parents are overstressed, to the stockbroker who can't stop because so much happens in so little time now, we are simply overloaded but informations and prehaps we just need to stop and smell the roses.
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    >but... people do

    hmmm... that is very true... i guess that's a kink in my plan then eh? perhaps it is that there is a resolution that you ultimately arrive at, and that every lifetime has it's resolution... but, since time is arbitrary, how can you say that resolutions are delimited by the extent of lifetimes?

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    > how can you say that resolutions are delimited by the extent of lifetimes?

    i dont quite understand ur question... r u asking if one's purpose is limited by the extent of his/her lifetime?... if that is ur question... it depends wut u mean by PURPOSE... a purpose can be long term objective or an immediate objective... can u clear up wut u mean?????

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    i meant rather, that if one's standing in a life is static throughout that person's lifetime, that would mean that their karma is refreshed at the end of the old life and the beginning of the new... which can't be because people change, and time is arbitrary...
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    Wow, this sounds an awful lot like what we (aran elus, davidp, ken, and I) were discussing earlier tonight

    Anyways... After only skimming the arguments... I think that kids are influenced quite a bit by pop culture in general (not just MTV), quite a bit by other kids, and quite a bit more by older kids. I know that when my brother was younger, he sure tried to emulate me, and still does (no, this isn't an ego-trip... It's the truth - younger siblings tend to emulate or copy their older ones). However, there's also other things that influence them - family, church, etc.... Basically, I agree with the webmaster's fine muppet....

    However, as I was talking about with David, do you think it's right to hide things away just because they're more violent? I mean - yes, Saving Private Ryan was extremely graphic, and it sounds like the same can be said for Blackhawk Down. The thing is, these are both based on actual events. The worst scenes in Private Ryan (the DDay landing) were actually that bloody. I'm sure it's the same situation in BHD. Is it right to hide these things from kids just because they're graphic, or should the material just be presented in a different way, so kids wouldn't be desensitized to it?

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    Also - kermi, was the movie any good (disregarding the kids in there)?

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    o so u r saying that if one changes... that person's soul is not happy... well... people are different... some people are good... and some people are bad... then it is possible souls are different as well... in that some souls are good and some souls are bad... if this is the case... u cannot make a judgement for everyone and the spirits that dwell within them... for some souls... change could be a good thing...

    heh... let me kno if im completely miss understanding u

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    to Govtcheez:

    if u dunt like da way i type... dunt read wut i type

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    Being that your posts are in the middle of the thread, it's kinda difficult. Why's it so damn hard for people to type right?

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    it juss is

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    However, as I was talking about with David, do you think it's right to hide things away just because they're more violent?
    I agree it's not right to hide things, however it is a fine line, because I believe kids do need a chance to be kids. You know time to learn from playing, fights on the playground, games etc.


    Also - kermi, was the movie any good (disregarding the kids in there)?
    Yes awsome movie, recomend it to everyone, just be prepared for Saving Private Ryan level gore. But definatley worth the $6!
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