Baaad news for me

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    Baaad news for me

    First of all, good to see you again. I haven't been here for quite a while.

    The baaad news is that Russians are destroying everything in Estonia's capital Tallinn. They are burning houses, cars, destroying everything, making fires on the streets etc.
    It all started because Estonian government decided to move a Soviet Union monument to another place. It was just decided to move to another place, not to destroy it nor anything.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6597497.stm
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6255051.stm
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBC
    Russia, which does not agree that the Soviet Union occupied Estonia, has suggested that it is symptomatic of a rebirth of fascism in Estonia.
    I'll give you a short summary of Estonian history:
    Estonia was under Soviet occupation from 1939-1991. It was taken under Soviet control by invading it with hundreds of tanks and hundred thousands of soldiers. Many Estonians were killed.
    In 1941 and in 1945 they deported 1/20 of Estonians to Siberia, 3/4 of Estonians had their close relatives deported, 2/3 of the deported people died there...

    I just wanted people to know about it, because Russia has been denying everything and they've been good at it, because they have power.

    THIS IS SICK!
    Last edited by maxorator; 04-26-2007 at 02:57 PM.
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    Sorry.

    I guess that is the kind of thing that makes Americans still pretty good.

    Good to hear from you again though.

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    The Soviet Union monuments should be destroyed..
    Trinity: "Neo... nobody has ever done this before."
    Neo: "That's why it's going to work."
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    Based on what? The fact that history occurred? Yeah I suppose we can pretend it didn't happen.

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    They can put up a sign, "Soviet monument rubble lies here".

    I'm sure everyone can remember history without the berlin wall, Concentration Camps, MacDonalds, etc.

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    Who said anything about forgetting history?
    But tell me, why should we glorify a Communistic society?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmd15 View Post
    Who said anything about forgetting history?
    But tell me, why should we glorify a Communistic society?
    *points up*

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    that works.

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    Few houses burned down, because there weren't many wooden houses. Tens of shops were destroyed and emptied (all alcohol was stolen there), kiosks were destroyed, cars had serious damages, all windows were broken, everything was a mess. Many of them got drunk and ended up killing eachother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmd15 View Post
    Who said anything about forgetting history?
    But tell me, why should we glorify a Communistic society?
    Why should we glorify ancient Greek or Egyptian societies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Govtcheez View Post
    Why should we glorify ancient Greek or Egyptian societies?
    madness ? this is SPARTA !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Govtcheez View Post
    Why should we glorify ancient Greek or Egyptian societies?
    The Soviet Union was a repressive regime that treated their people horribly, among other faults.

    Are you willing to pass the same judgment on the ancient Greeks and Egyptians? If so, then I would have to answer, "we shouldn't" to your question. If not....

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    Government has instructed people to stay at home...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cj0Yaqb8-MY#UhQORsnTek8
    Would you like to live in the same country with them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Govtcheez View Post
    Why should we glorify ancient Greek or Egyptian societies?
    Basically, we just don't. I've been in Tunesia and I have not seen any glorifications of the Roman Empire, that razed their former capitol of Carthage a few millenia ago.
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    I can't say I hate Russians - most of them are nice people. Many Russians just believe what Russian government says. For example Russian government called Estonia fascists, now Russians blame us of being fascists. They're not used to think. They just live there and do what the government (dictators) says. Many of the rioting Russians just used the opportunity to steal and destroy - they didn't care about anything else. They just thought that Russia has 'allowed them to do so'.
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