Are you for MS or Anti-MS?

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    >Just 1%, gg? Damn... I guess it's time to bring out CheetOS XS (extra special). It'll primarily be for the Wombat gaming system that I spoke about in a much earlier thread, but its cross-platform compatibility spreads to refrigerators, freezers (we finally broke the ice-cube matrix!), and thumbtacks. <

    Oh yeah you get 2% take a persent from the fruitOS

    [commplety of topic]
    Since windows has x-box
    and
    cheezOS has Wombat

    Who do you think sony and nintendo would pair up with.

    My guess is sony would creat sony linux
    and Nintendo would team up with Mac.

    [/completly of topic]

    >Dos = Unix(actuallly dos was bought)
    Windows = MacOS
    WindowsNT = Unix
    Microsoft office = Corel Whatever it was...
    Windows XP = Linux + Unix + MacOS<
    It's time I release the SECRET MICROSOFT TEPLETE CODE. I only have the main funcion though

    Code:
    #include <otherprogram.h>
    #inclucde <modify.h>
    
     if def win9x
    void main()
    if def winnt
     int main ()
    {
    convert (company, OriganalToMicrosoft);
    convert (productName, OriganalToOurs);
        if (win9X)
        {
         createbugs(Lots, restartneeded);
        }
        if (winnt)
        {
         return 0;
         }
    }
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    AHHHH... someone help him! He's fallen prey to the Witch King and that evil frickin AVATAR! gamegod... it's not too late... you can still be saved... you're young and impressionable... we realize this, but there is light at the end of the tunnel.... or on the other side of the back door of McDonald's on the way to take the trash out... you get my point...

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    that doesn't make up for the fact that they have created an operating system that programmers only have indirect access to, they design systems that are crash-prone and inefficient,
    What do you mean inderect accsess to the OS? I presume you mean hardware. Why in the world do you want to write drivers for your programs, all that would do is take up space and time. I let windows take care of the drivers and I don't have to worry about them. I rearly have any crashes with my computer and when I do I just run scan disk and defrag and every thing is fixed.


    >. I really, really don't like their new registration policies with XP. I still don't think I should have to convince MS that I didn't steal the OS when I upgrade my system. <
    I think eliminating Piritcy will be the downfull of microsofts monnopoly since very very very few people go out an buy Microsofts newist and greatest program, they usely just go and borrow someone elses. Who got theres when they brought a new compuer

    >Java although some of you hate it is much better than MFC, or WIN32 API<

    JAVA != to cross plaftform

    Java is interperted into bite code witch in turn can be interperated into machine code that will run on any os that has a way to interpert the byte code to machen code. Java is only theoraticly cross plaftorm.


    >Opengl will work on any machine that supports it
    I will be very ........ed at mirosoft if they drop support for OpenGl since it is the standerd for graphics.
    To Err Is To Be Human. To Game Is Divine!"

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    Forget the whole MS Anti- MS war, instead, go for MoFos: http://www.somethingawful.com/featur...ofos/index.htm

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    I never said java worked on every machine, but it has GUI + database support, etc. Does any other "Standard" have all these things?

    Most OSes have A JVM, while very few have a windows emulator... If all software were to be developed on Java Microsoft would have NOTHING...

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    Start the Anti-M$ front
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    > I never said java worked on every machine, but it has GUI + database support, etc. Does any other "Standard" have all these things? <

    Your point, java is not a standered nor is it cross platform.

    >Most OSes have A JVM, while very few have a windows emulator... If all software were to be developed on Java Microsoft would have NOTHING...<

    I have looked for linux emultors and could find none. And java needs to be supported by the OS. Java is slllloooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. Why do you come here if it is so great.
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    interesting...

    Ah...a MS discussion...

    Well, I have heard a lot of good points, and I would like to comment on them and make some of my own.

    And some of us like to
    tweak... do you have a problem with that?
    Getting peak performance out of a piece of
    hardware is essential in some situations.
    Hmmm...just so you know, some times the tweaking you need to do is actually on the hard ware end, not the software...

    But anyways...

    Microsoft is good and bad in many ways. Like many before me have said, they have brought a set of standards to the computer world. I dont have official numbers, but I would say about 99% of home users use MS Windows 9x. Windows originally became so popular because of its easy to use interface, and it had a whole set of Office programs to go with it, along with a few nice games. So since the public liked it, it became wide spread. Since it is so wide spread, you can easily trade files and programs with people with no worry about porting it to their OS or something like that.

    However, even though Windows was very nice to the public, it is not as nice to the programmer. Windows is incredibly unstable (I have not used NT, but supposedly it is much more stable, hopefully XP will be very stable), and so the hard core users of Windows end up having to reboot several times a day because of computer freeze ups. Programmers went with Windows because the public liked it, and so they knew they would have a nice market when using Windows as their OS.

    However, now we are trapped. We use Windows because everybody uses it, so it is pretty universal. But we dont want to use Windows because it is unstable (hopefully XP will solve that and then all of our problems will be solved). So we are left with the choice of using Windows, stalling several times a day, but being compatible with everyone else, or not using Windows, being more stable, but not being compatible with everyone else. A tough choice for programmers...hopefully XP will be nice and stable so we wont have to make that choice.
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    I've never had NT have a total system crash but I have seen many NT's with
    blue screens in the lab. Login time is prohibitive, over 5 minutes! I'd probably expect a crash every four days. Not good for servers but good enough for workstations.

    Having one product dominate the market is not having a
    standard it's a monopoly. A standard well sort of requires at least two different companies agreeing on something. An example would be opengl, sgi doesn't
    control it, decisions are made by a standard commitee, of which sgi and Microsoft are
    members.

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    We use NT workstations here at my place of employment... just peachy I tell ya... has anyone else seen the famous "memory dump" on the screen? Looks like a blue screen that sorta puked on itself. I'd rather use 98 workstations any day... (yes, I'm conceding to using an M$ product, but people are morons... do you know how long it would take to teach people how to use Linux workstations? You should see the level of intelligence with NT... ridiculous...

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