GUI programming? Naah!

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    GUI programming? Naah!

    This is not a poll thread, although it could be. I'm just curious as to if anyone else doesn't feel that drive towards moving their C++ learning (or experience) to GUI development. I mean, I feel more excited in learning the workings of C++ and some of the concepts like multi-threading, RAII or design principles like the PIMPL idiom, than I am of learning to program in Windows or any other GUI for that matter.

    It is a fact that I have absolutely no intention of ever going professional with C++. I'm not learning it to put it in my resume. My resume in fact is a thing of the past. I'm getting ready to abandon the programming profession. I'm learning it because I love programming and this is finally the time I can devote myself to C++. But is there anyone else out there who doesn't really feel inclined to GUI programming and instead prefer to dwell on other aspects of the language?
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    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    GUI programming is one of the most dreaded aspects of programming IMHO.... I'd be more than giddy if I never wrote another GUI again, thats what the code monkeys are for

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mario F.
    But is there anyone else out there who doesn't really feel inclined to GUI programming and instead prefer to dwell on other aspects of the language?
    I've tried to go GUI several times in the last decade, but it never took. It just doesn't fit well with what I do.
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    I have felt inclined several times, I have learned wxWidgets enough to do basic GUI. But, in general, I can't justify the time it takes to make a good GUI for any program I write, since I would rather use it comandline and/or make a P/TK interface that sets a config file... then upon hitting the run button executes the program with those settings.

    P/TK GUI takes ~3 hours to make nice one

    (For those that don't know P/TK is portable TK ( believe that is the name ) and I use it with Perl.

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    After taking a semester of Visual Basic Programming... where the teacher was more interested in seeing a pretty font than he was seeing an efficient sorting algorithm... I've felt inclined to never look at a GUI, again. In fact... I read this forum via the command line...

    ... or do I?
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    >> I read this forum via the command line...

    Me too. Your milk carton is an array of moving dots. It's rather cool.

    I got a book about GUI, but never used it (got it for &#163;5 when I was in Scotland last sumer, and didn't really look at it much). (I'm thinking lots of the windows programming guru's will be here agreeing with the majority soon ...)

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    GUI is nothing more than "user-friendly" design. There are many types of software that cannot be developed without GUI. There are many types of software where GUI is pointless. But if you develop software for dumbusers, you should choose GUI.

    I personally think GUI is fun. Nothing more. Just fun.
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    Good to know I'm not the only one. Truth be told though when I look at WxWidgets, WinAPI or even MFC C++ code, I struggle to make sense of it. So probably there is also an hint of fear and lazyness on my part there.

    Since I do enjoy exploring the language, there may come a day that I will simply wake up wanting to try it. But I'm pretty sure the main motivation is the lack of motivation. Even during my Visual Basic days, I was always more interested on algorithms, code correctness and language features than I was really interested on the actual development of applications for windows.
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    The programmer comes home with 12 loaves of bread.


    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    No wonder you don't like GUI programming... you started with Visual Basic!!!
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    Actually I started windows programming with Delphi and Command Center ++.

    However... I'm curious... have you ever programmed in Visual Basic? I mean really program, not dabble in it.

    I love it this Visual-Basic-Sux steryotype that people developed from hearsay. It's even more fun when you consider that a vast majority of windows business applications running everything inside a company from budgets to paychecks were developed in Visual Basic.
    The programmer’s wife tells him: “Run to the store and pick up a loaf of bread. If they have eggs, get a dozen.”
    The programmer comes home with 12 loaves of bread.


    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    >> have you ever programmed in Visual Basic?

    Me '-' Nope. Not even a dabble, to be honest, which is why I generally don't go into the whole 'VB sux' thing.
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    I do GUI work on virtually all the applications I make. Usually I write applications to fill a purpose for which I can't find a prewritten applications, and in general, if it's complicated enough to need a program it's usually complicated enough to need a GUI.

    I use MFC for most, WinAPI for the rest. I've considered learning C#/.NET programming as GUI work is supposed to be a whole lot simpler, but I do just fine in MFC.

    And no, never did Visual Basic myself; when I learned BASIC there was no such thing (that would have been circa 1989 or so), and by 1991, when VB 1.0 came out, I was using C++ (though admittedly very poorly for a few years).
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    Quote Originally Posted by twomers
    Me? Nope. Not even a dabble, to be honest, which is why I generally don't go into the whole 'VB sux' thing.
    I wasn't talking to you, silly.
    The programmer’s wife tells him: “Run to the store and pick up a loaf of bread. If they have eggs, get a dozen.”
    The programmer comes home with 12 loaves of bread.


    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    I know. I meant to put a '-' instead of a '?' there ... sorry for stealing the post

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    I find the Win32 API interesting and gratifying. I'm far from having mastered C++, but I feel like learning Win32 at the same time is a good change from the not-pretty-looking console programs.

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