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    Quote Originally Posted by Wraithan
    Yeah, I can tell by your 'tar and title.
    Dude, I haven't gotten around to changing it yet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlyMaelstrom
    I wonder what kind of processing power it takes to render those translucent windows...
    Depends.

    Vista requires an awful lot, and if your computer isn't fast enough, it simply won't.

    On the other hand, XGL+whatsitsname (sorry, 4 AM here) do it on a simple computer with a simple 3d-capable card. Go figure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CornedBee
    XGL+whatsitsname (sorry, 4 AM here)
    Perhaps KDE? I don't know if it's true, but I've heard a rumor that the PC manufacturers have been "encouraging" Microsoft to up the requirements for Vista so that people will have to buy new comps. I doubt this is true, but it's an interesting thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CornedBee
    Depends.

    Vista requires an awful lot, and if your computer isn't fast enough, it simply won't.

    On the other hand, XGL+whatsitsname (sorry, 4 AM here) do it on a simple computer with a simple 3d-capable card. Go figure.
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    PC: I buy it, build it, and customize it. Unfortunately I have to slow idown with an MS OS.
    Thats my take on Vista.

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    > It's not called Jaguar, it's called Leopard!!!

    Give me a break. It's my first mac ever

    EDIT: Which begs the question, am I doing alright by waiting for... leaopard? Or shouldn't I care and buy a mac today?
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    Just out of curiosity how many lines of code do you think Vista will have?
    Vista is not one program, like other MS OSes and some other OSes. If I ask how many lines Fedora Core ditro does have? Will you add up gcc or other included packages source code lines to it? Vista kernel is based on Windows Server 2003 kernel, so its kernel is about the same size. It also has .NET 3 included that is .NET 2 plus some other features. It also has a heavy GUI "Avalon" (that is the larger part of it) in addition of some other services.
    All other parts should not be considered as OS's parts and are just some applications you are forced to buy with it (Claculator, CD burner, IE, Media Player, Movie Maker, etc).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mario F.
    EDIT: Which begs the question, am I doing alright by waiting for... leaopard? Or shouldn't I care and buy a mac today?
    I think it's probably a good idea to wait. I suspect that Apple will be more punctual than Microsoft when it comes to delivering the operating system when they promised. And of course Steve Jobs said there's "a lot of great stuff that we're going to keep secret". Me, from what I've seen of Leopard, I'm not totally blown away by it, but I am looking forward to Xcode 3.0.

    What I hate about commercial operating systems is that once they're released, support for the previous OS gets phased out (even though there isn't really any earthly reason WHY), and then you're pretty well forced to buy the next-gen operating system. Gamers probably experience this the most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twomers
    And here's the minimum requirements -

    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvist...uirements.mspx
    I personally hate that it takes 15GB of HDD. Everything else is OK.
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    15GB? That's really not that much these days, where computers are coming out with 1TB+ of Hard Disk Space. If you buy hard drives, the price isn't in the disk space it's in the RPMs. You can go from an 80GB model for $48 to a 160GB model for $53. Even in laptops you can get an 80GB for about $70 these days. Disk Space is cheap these days. I'm more worried about it's memory requirements. They say 1GB... but it's always much more if you want an enjoyable experience. ... or at least as enjoyable as a MS product can give you.

    Regardless, my newest PC can handle the recommended and then some, it's my laptop that I'm more concerned about. Memory can only be expanded so much in them.
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    The prices are about twice as much here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlyMaelstrom
    15GB? That's really not that much these days, where computers are coming out with 1TB+ of Hard Disk Space. If you buy hard drives, the price isn't in the disk space it's in the RPMs. You can go from an 80GB model for $48 to a 160GB model for $53. Even in laptops you can get an 80GB for about $70 these days. Disk Space is cheap these days.........
    That's the kind of attitude that's got us (Humanity) into the current mess that we are today with the global environment and overpopulation. Just because HD space doesn't cost much doen't mean micro........e has the right to wastefully demand that much space... I mean C'mooon 15 bloody GIGABYTES for crying out loud!!!! WTF??!!
    I'm going to stick to Win2k till OS death do us apart and after that I'll move over to a Unix system. In fact, I'll only touch win 2k+ systems if there are games I can't get to work in Unix. In fact I'll probably virtualise the piece of ..........e only to play games that are only released for the platform. (Sorry but Micrsofts antics are currently making me see red)
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    Yes... 15GB. What do you want, time to stop? I don't think they're using the space for buffered garbage... I'm sure a majority of it is going to use. So what's the problem with 15GB when you have it? What are you going "old man" on us? "When I was your age, Operating Systems would fit on 1.5GB... and that was the maximum!" What was the average HD space when XP came out? That uses 1.5GB... I don't think computer manufacturers were building PCs with much more than 40GB in 2003... so in an age where the norm is almost 200GB, does it seem that outrageous?

    ...and what the hell was the overpopulation analogy? I don't see the earth growing, so how is it comparable to HD space? So stick on Win2K forever, for all I care. Stick it to the man. They're probably going to stop supporting it in a couple years, anyway. ...but if my next laptop has Vista preinstalled on its massive HD, I won't be complaining.
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    15GB is like 16,106,127,360 characters (bytes), think how many thousands of books you would need to get the same amount of characters.

    So what is so much better in Vista that makes it take 10x more space than XP does.
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