Logic for computer science.

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    >Anyone take this horrific course before?
    Most of the computer scientists in the world. Up until recently (when college courses started dumbing down with Java), the first quarter of any CS course was designed as a culling process to get rid of the people who couldn't cut it in the field. If you're in one of the few remaining horror courses, consider yourself lucky. You can learn a lot more than the average CS course if you stick to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prelude
    the first quarter of any CS course was designed as a culling process to get rid of the people who couldn't cut it in the field.
    Phew... good thing I missed that wave of teaching.

    Trust me... a couple more decades here in the mail room and I'll definitely be a programmer.
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    Your definitely not alone. When I first start my computing course I was completely overwhelmed. I think you just need some time for adjustment. If it is pulling down on your other subjects, then you should consider dropping it.

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    Doxygen I think CS has some pre-requistes wich are of great abstractness so it is confuzing on the beginning specially if you are 17 yo uni freshmen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prelude
    >Anyone take this horrific course before?
    Most of the computer scientists in the world. Up until recently (when college courses started dumbing down with Java), the first quarter of any CS course was designed as a culling process to get rid of the people who couldn't cut it in the field. If you're in one of the few remaining horror courses, consider yourself lucky. You can learn a lot more than the average CS course if you stick to it.
    well this is like a third tier class, having only one tier left until the end, after logic is algorithms, which I'm taking introduction to with Data Structures. I've been in college for about 4 yeass, don't get me wrong. I started off in like pre-college level math, then went on to take and pass the higher levels like discrete math and calculus, so I can learn. But with logic I'm hitting a rut. I know I have to adjust, but If I take it again I will still not understand the subject, especially if I take it with my current teacher. Plus we're using a book he wrote (actually, is still writing), ugh. I think I'm going to invest in some other logic material and take the class later. We have a test soon so I'll wait until then.
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    If any one cares, I was wondering if they could give me some advice then. I mean, I finished AP AB CS Java here in high school, 5 on the exam blah w/o trying, but these cs classes for college sound very difficult. I'm also taking BC calc, haven't done any stats, took some basic physics, but do you think it's smart to take advantage of these AP credit-in-college dealios?

    I've never ever had good study habits, and I just don't want to jump into something way over my head.

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    If you are succeeding in AP classes then you shouldn't have too much of a problem. You should still take the whol CS first/second year line when you get to college. The one will be really boring but it pays off later when you actually start learning.

    And any program is still practice, even if you dont turn in your version with all the extra features because your teacher grades you down on it (what happened to me).

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    I'd say this class and prob and stat are the hardest classes I've taken. programming 1 and 2 are a breeze, especially if you already know java, it's just baby steps. Data structures is a little tough because I'm not good at figuring out mathematical or puzzle type things (hence not that good at algorithms) but can implement them just fine in C++ or Java if I'm given. And the computer structure classes are interesting, but boring to sit through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prelude
    If you're in one of the few remaining horror courses, consider yourself lucky. You can learn a lot more than the average CS course if you stick to it.
    I'm in one of those but I don't consider my self lucky, I have serious doubts if this will be usefull for me on real life work. Most of time these things seem like a megalomaniac point of view of a teacher

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    >I have serious doubts if this will be usefull for me on real life work.
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    >> And the computer structure classes are interesting, but boring to sit through.

    Definition of boring :/\

    So lacking in interest as to cause mental weariness
    Well, I feel that way about some of my classes. Despite interesting subject material, it seems just terribly boring to sit through. I feel I do better just sitting with a textbook.

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    That is why online classes were invented. Also usually you can still go in to see your teacher (if you live near campus) if you need some help.

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    I pluck my chin hairs (when they aren't shaven) to stay awake in some classess.

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    I pick at the wierd layer of skin under my fingernail (when I haven't cut then) to distract myself in some classes.

    >> That is why online classes were invented. Also usually you can still go in to see your teacher (if you live near campus) if you need some help.

    I always worry about credibility and what things are subtley communicated with things like this. Overarching question: am I just paranoid?

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    Mostly. I take some college courses online as it is my only way to attend right now. You probably won't find it a waste of time or have too much of a problem communicating. Not seeing people in class or interacting very much with the professor has gotten to me as of late though, so if you're like me, that will bother you.

    While it is true that a professor will still have office hours, I find that a big paradox. If I could get to school I would probably not need online courses at all.

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