How can Bit Torrent be destroyed?

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    How can Bit Torrent be destroyed?

    Well, the good news is that Kazaa is pretty much dead.
    Music wins. Pirates lose. Etc. The battle anyway. Not the
    war. The war is far from over my pale-skinned Brothers.

    There's still Bit Torrent. How can we eliminate that? There's
    nobody to sue. I'm sure that dude who invtented it meant
    well, but seriously: it's practically useless for anything other
    than piracy.

    Brainstorm, folks. Brainstorm.

    As part of the settlement, Kazaa's operator, Sydney-based Sharman Networks Ltd., agreed to pay more than $115 million and create an authorized online service that lets people share copyrighted music, film or software — and share appropriate royalties.

    http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...lines-business
    Pfft. Nobody is going to subscribe to friggin' Kazaa. Their
    "business" is ruined. I predict they will completely close
    up shop within a month. If Napster couldn't recover, Kazaa
    sure as hell won't.

    This is a link, too.
    http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/con...6/s1700011.htm


    Um, I didn't technically read the entire articles. Just skimmed.
    That's what I do. I skim things. You know, get the basic gist. And
    so on and so forth.
    Staying away from General.

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    it's practically useless for anything other than piracy.
    Oh yeah? It's great for downloading popular Linux distributions.

    Well, I read somewhere that Fraunhoufer is now trying to add a "Watermark" feature to MP3 -- a tiny embedded "image" in the song, but not audible -- that will allow record companys to track the music on services such as Bittorent. Dunno if it'll be any good though.

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    Agreed, torrents are very popular for free software.

    Well, I read somewhere that Fraunhoufer is now trying to add a "Watermark" feature to MP3
    I've heard that too, but what prevents you from removing it?

    I encourage people to watch this lecture just to see and hear the writer of bittorrent
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=U27gnFxh7w4

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeprogrammer
    a tiny embedded "image" in the song, but not audible
    Wouldn't this cripple MP3 playback in some (not all) software?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadCow257
    Agreed, torrents are very popular for free software.


    I've heard that too, but what prevents you from removing it?

    I encourage people to watch this lecture just to see and hear the writer of bittorrent
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=U27gnFxh7w4
    That woman introducing him talks in the most annoying way. In fact everyone in that film seems to lack even the most basic social skills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadCow257
    Agreed, torrents are very popular for free software.
    so was kazaa
    The programmer’s wife tells him: “Run to the store and pick up a loaf of bread. If they have eggs, get a dozen.”
    The programmer comes home with 12 loaves of bread.


    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    >There's nobody to sue.
    Oh yes there is. You can sue the distributors of illegal torents. This is where most of the piracy happens. The Pirate Bay is one of the largest (and free) illegal bittorent distributors. If they were to get shut down, that would end a lot of software piracy. The biggest problem is that The Pirate Bay is located in Sweden, and the rules there state that it is not illegal to distribute the torrents for illegal software, which is exactly what these sites are doing.

    That's the problem. The Pirate Bay simply ridicules the legal threats that they recieve by posting them on their website. The worst thing is that the public are actually in favour of the pirates:
    http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=2037401

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    I'm not for pirating but I sure have no pity for the mpaa, they're a bunch of worthless whining domineering cretins.

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    There's still Bit Torrent. How can we eliminate that?
    In view that bittorrent is a technology, I think focussing on eliminating it would be the wrong approach. Consider that eliminating networking protocols would quite effectively stop online piracy. It would also have an interesting side effect on this messageboard.
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    But there's more than bittorrent! How about Limewire? Those sites online who host files like RapidShar, etc. They KNOW they host illegal movies, music, software etc on their sites. There's no way they can't, but that doesn't stop them hosting! They don't even check. They even offer subscriptions to people, so they can download more files, faster! Then, there are sites online like this forum, but instead of talking about C-Programming, they give links to files on RapidShare etc, where you can download files etc.

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    .. and there is eMule... and... and there will be many more to come, all with ornate names... and... and on the 7th day they will have a rest, only to make a new one on the 8th... and...

    *yawn*
    The programmer’s wife tells him: “Run to the store and pick up a loaf of bread. If they have eggs, get a dozen.”
    The programmer comes home with 12 loaves of bread.


    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    So there is no beating piracy! C'est impossible! En mon avis.

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    There is no way to fight pirace, shut down the pirate bay and a new site will pop up. Filter out the protocols and people will find new ways. The pirates will always be one step ahead of everybody else. What the musicindustry have to get into their thick slow brains is that CDs wont cut it, people are sick of paying a ........load of money (a CD here in sweden costs almost 30 USD, i mean come on), and instead find a new medium with which they can distribute their music (see iTunes, which iirc was a quite big success).
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    Quote Originally Posted by joeprogrammer
    The Pirate Bay is located in Sweden, and the rules there state that it is not illegal to distribute the torrents for illegal software, which is exactly what these sites are doing.
    Not entirely true, because TPB was shut down a few months ago, all their severs taken by the police. The investigation is in progress, but will probably take some time. TPB is now back in Sweden, but won't be touched until the investigation is done, it seems.
    They hope to convict the owners for helping (english legal term?) the distribution of copyrighted material.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ethic
    Well, the good news is that Kazaa is pretty much dead.
    Music wins. Pirates lose. Etc. The battle anyway. Not the
    war. The war is far from over my pale-skinned Brothers.

    There's still Bit Torrent. How can we eliminate that? There's
    nobody to sue. I'm sure that dude who invtented it meant
    well, but seriously: it's practically useless for anything other
    than piracy.

    Brainstorm, folks. Brainstorm.



    Pfft. Nobody is going to subscribe to friggin' Kazaa. Their
    "business" is ruined. I predict they will completely close
    up shop within a month. If Napster couldn't recover, Kazaa
    sure as hell won't.

    This is a link, too.
    http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/con...6/s1700011.htm


    Um, I didn't technically read the entire articles. Just skimmed.
    That's what I do. I skim things. You know, get the basic gist. And
    so on and so forth.
    There are millions of people who are using bittorent to distribute and download legal files. Podcasts, demos, updates for software, linux distros, etc. are all legally and successfully distributed through torrents. Suggesting that this protocol be "eliminated" only shows your ignorance and intolerance. Why don't you just lobby for outlawing computers all together? They are the largest platform for copying and distributing copyrighted material.

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