Has anyone tried visual studio express yet?

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    Has anyone tried visual studio express yet?

    It's pretty damn good. So long Dev-C++.

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    It is indeed a very good IDE. And it does build on top of a very good compiler and an excellent debugger.

    However, it leaks a lot of memory, consumes a lot of memory, some of the missing aspects of ISO C++ compliance border the ridicule (you can, for instance, declare a friend member function without a return type), and some of the available third-party libraries are a nightmare to be installed under it.

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    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    I can deal with memory leaks ect for a great compiler/debugger

    I haven't tried using third party libs so I guess I have nothing to add there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mario F.
    However, it leaks a lot of memory
    Is this something you've experienced for yourself or something you've heard? How much memory is "a lot" of memory?

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    It is discussed at large on several websites. Mainly (as I experienced it too), VC++ Express Edition starts to become increasingly slow as you keep working on it. Also your available memory (according to my TuneUp Memory Optimizer) decreases considerably with time.

    I cannot provide exact figures as I don't have it installed anymore.

    EDIT: Most of these issues pertain to the included Help system, btw.
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    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    I have had it running for 2 full days now and opened several projects without closing it, and is currently idleing at 32k. Reletivly speaking (dev, codeblocks) yes this may be a lot. But otherwise it's really nothing. Hell, I have 700 megs left, why should 32k bother me?

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    The programmer’s wife tells him: “Run to the store and pick up a loaf of bread. If they have eggs, get a dozen.”
    The programmer comes home with 12 loaves of bread.


    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    > However, it leaks a lot of memory...

    Ironic, considering it's built largely for writing managed code, which is supposed to avoid memory leaks.
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    I've been using code::blocks recently, yet anoter ide that beats Dev C++ in overall usability.

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    VS 2003 rules!!!
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    I use VS.NET ... not had any problems with it really. I'm happy out with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahluka
    VS 2003 rules!!!
    Free VS 2005 is even better . However, I don't use it because I don't have a copy of XP to install on my Mac.

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    hahaha, macs..

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