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    Anyway, you make about as much sense as Richard Stallman when he said, "Linux is not free as in beer...". Maybe you can tell us where in the hell the free beer is, or the holy grail for that matter.
    There was free beer at my friend's birthday party, the other day. Of course, it was at zero price relative to me, and I had extraneous expenses due to the cost of the present, travel and my time.

    Linux is an operating system. A corporation can use Linux as a platform for IBM or Oracles product line, but as far as I know, you would have to go about that by getting a license from a Linux vendor, and enterprise Linux is expensive. You are paying for the service and support mostly, but also indemnification and buch of other bull crap.
    Well, you are equally guilty of not qualifying your statement that "Linux is not free."
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    Quote Originally Posted by MDofRockyView
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    const char array "Linuxisnotfree";
    Don't think that's gonna work, MountainDew. Buddy.
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    MDofRockyView you do realize one can edit his own posts , no need to post twice or more without having another person replying between them...

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    Guess you already know where that button is located ...

    >> A customer is told that their investment in a product line is secure because of portability; and this is the sales pitch.
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    >Well cup cake, I didn't mean to offend you
    You didn't.

    >but I like to see you get angry, just don't ask me why.
    I doubt very much you could say anything that would make me angry.

    >You are paying for the service and support mostly, but also indemnification and buch of other bull crap.
    That's a fallacy. You're moving too quickly from the specific to the general. Explain the logic in this: "Enterprise Linux uses licenses for support. Licenses cost money, so Linux is not free".

    >No, in all honesty, I just wanted Prelude's attention.
    A better way would be to show a breadth and depth of knowledge that impresses me. That way you get my attention and keep it. Or if your posts are constantly amusing. But if you act like an idiot, you'll get my attention for a while and then quickly lose it in favor of more interesting people. Of course, some people want attention regardless of whether it's negative or positive.
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    /EDIT: Nevermind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prelude
    A better way would be to show a breadth and depth of knowledge that impresses me. That way you get my attention and keep it. Or if your posts are constantly amusing. But if you act like an idiot, you'll get my attention for a while and then quickly lose it in favor of more interesting people. Of course, some people want attention regardless of whether it's negative or positive.
    Hi Prelude. WoW friend.

    Let's say, hypothetically, I threw a gummy bear at you. That
    would impress you, right? EHl;athlah;wtawtearslehtai;
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prelude
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    >No, in all honesty, I just wanted Prelude's attention.
    A better way would be to show a breadth and depth of knowledge that impresses me. That way you get my attention and keep it. Or if your posts are constantly amusing. But if you act like an idiot, you'll get my attention for a while and then quickly lose it in favor of more interesting people. Of course, some people want attention regardless of whether it's negative or positive.
    :wub:


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    I almost certainly am.
    Who the hell are you anyways? I haven't seen you post anywhere else lately (that I can recall) now suddenly you're... here.
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    So, nvoigt, are you saying there is no market for C++? That it is just a toy for those who like it and it can only be justly applied on systems where a framework the likes of .Net was not created?
    Certainly not. Like C#, Java, VB or pure C, C++ is a tool. And each tool has it's use. I would not use C++ to write a client side GUI and I would not use C# to write a server tier application. C++ is a very good tool, there is virtually nothing you cannot do with it, although it might not be as easy as with other tools. In any case, you won't get far with just knowing one language. I mean you would not expect to get hired at a construction site for your "hammer skills". You are either a worker, or not. There is no "hammer" guy there. The same applies to IT. C++ is a very good start because with C++ under your belt, learning the rest will be easy. But "just" C++ won't help you much, the same way that "just" C# won't. Fast forward 20 years and "just" C-doublesharpcrossplusextrahot will not be enough. You will need JavaAndTheRestOfIndonesia(Major), too.

    You will never learn something that is the end of all. I studied C++ when Java was just the hottest, best, end-to-all-problems solution. Where I work we had a 3-tier system in C++ when C# came around. The other 3-tier system was then built in C#. Each has it's advantages, each has it's drawbacks. You will need to stay on top and learn new stuff to find the best solution to a problem at hand.
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    >You are very shy, in a way, and it shows.
    Indeed. Especially in crowds. However, that has little to do with you seeking my attention.

    >Hi Prelude. WoW friend.
    Speaking of, I finally got WoW. What server are you on?

    >Let's say, hypothetically, I threw a gummy bear at you. That would impress you, right?
    If you could do that across the web, I'd be very impressed.

    >All software is licensed. Linux is licensed under the GPL. Enterprise Linux is a product that is
    >sold by a Linux vendor to a customer with a contract. More?
    Your statement was fallacious and no amount of rationalization will fix it. By the way, you're still moving too quickly from the specific to the general and trying to use it to justify your broken logic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prelude
    >You are very shy, in a way, and it shows.
    Indeed. Especially in crowds. However, that has little to do with you seeking my attention.

    >Hi Prelude. WoW friend.
    Speaking of, I finally got WoW. What server are you on?


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    July 25. I'm sure I'll be back, because I've quit 5 times.

    If you could do that across the web, I'd be very impressed.
    What about if we were at a table drinking tea and all of the
    sudden a gummy bear hit you in the face?
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    >> What about if we were at a table drinking tea and all of the
    >> sudden a gummy bear hit you in the face?

    Well, if it goes in the mouth and gets chewed, hey, free Gummy Bear!

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    >I am not moving from the specific to the general too quickly.
    Yes, you are. You're using the specific instance of "A license for Enterprise Linux" to justify your statement that Linux as a whole is not free. This is not the case because there are countless exceptions beyond that single case where Linux is most certainly free by just about any definition you'd care to apply. By using a single specific case, and then applying that case as proof of a broader claim where it no longer applies, you've committed a fallacy. That's pure logic. QED

    By the way, you've managed to get my attention, but I'm already becoming bored. I guess you should have tried one of the better methods.
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    Since we're playing the attention game....

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    >You just don't know this
    That's an unwarranted assumption on your part.

    >because there is no person challenging your mind
    People do challenge me when I make a mistake. If you haven't seen anyone challenge me then what does that imply?

    >I told you that all of the Linux flavors come with a license and a contract
    And I told you that I've no interest in a philosophical debate about the myriad definitions of free.
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