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    Ph.D.?

    I'm not sure if I want to pursue a Ph.D. after my M.S.

    On one hand I love research and teaching. But on the other hand, I'm very weary of the E.E. curriculum. I want to do mathematical / behavioral science, but I cannot be sure it will perk my interests. What are some pros / cons of doing a Ph.D.? Anyone here have one that could shed some light? Thanks.

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    No one really replied to this... maybe because they got confused like I did. But... how should I put this...

    What are some pros / cons of doing a Ph.D.?
    Cons? Well... I can only think one. You would have a few more years of study ahead. But is that really a con? I don't think so. Especially in your field. And if research and teaching are what you like... what are you waiting for!?

    (What's an E.E. Curriculum?)
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    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    But is that really a con?
    I'd grasp every opportunity to stay in school. IMO being a student beats working by far.
    Last edited by Sang-drax : Tomorrow at 02:21 AM. Reason: Time travelling

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sang-drax
    I'd grasp every opportunity to stay in school. IMO being a student beats working by far.
    Yeah, paying money is way cooler than making money!

    Anyway. If you want to teach, then a PhD is a good idea. It makes it significantly easier to be hired by top universities.
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    >Yeah, paying money is way cooler than making money!

    I don't know where you live, but Grad Students here get paid to study.


    I'm just starting my Masters in September and I'm thinking about the same thing. I think I'll end up working a few years before I persue a PhD. Teaching is something i'd like to do later in life when I'm ready for a change of pace. Tough decision

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perspective
    >Yeah, paying money is way cooler than making money!

    I don't know where you live, but Grad Students here get paid to study.
    Paid to study? Maybe if you work as a teaching assistant. Tuition still cost money. At least where I live.

    In any event, you still paid a faction of the amount you could get in real work. And if you're looking to hold a full time job while working for your PhD, expect to have no private life. That's the only real con I can think of. It's A LOT of work.
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    Pursuing a PhD and working at the same time is more than an option. Its a necessity.
    The programmer’s wife tells him: “Run to the store and pick up a loaf of bread. If they have eggs, get a dozen.”
    The programmer comes home with 12 loaves of bread.


    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    Yes I know it is. Even getting a Masters you need to work a long side of it. Fortunately, many companies will help you pay your tuition. Regardless, it leaves little to no "you" time and if your married, you'd better have a spouse with plenty of tolerance.
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    and if your married, you'd better have a spouse with plenty of tolerance.
    Oh man... You can say that twice. And once more for good measure!
    The programmer’s wife tells him: “Run to the store and pick up a loaf of bread. If they have eggs, get a dozen.”
    The programmer comes home with 12 loaves of bread.


    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perspective
    I don't know where you live, but Grad Students here get paid to study.
    Here too. Ph.D. students have a quite nice salary. They have to do 20% teaching, or something like that.
    Last edited by Sang-drax : Tomorrow at 02:21 AM. Reason: Time travelling

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    The Uni near me pays the tution of teaching assistants and research assistance plus they get a salary.

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    >>Paid to study? Maybe if you work as a teaching assistant. Tuition still cost money. At least where I live.

    I'm going to be headed to PhD grad school (in psyc not CS) in a couple years, and I'm hoping that schools will may me to come. Research grants, TAing, endowments, etc. will hopefully foot the bill so I can "spread the university name"

    For my field, it's a necessity, but I enjoy the learning aspects of it, so I can't really see any cons...except the dissertation, that kinda scares me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sang-drax
    I'd grasp every opportunity to stay in school. IMO being a student beats working by far.
    Nothing beats learning by doing. As of now, I'm not even thinking on getting my master degree until I foresee the day that my employer and others value master degree than experience. (Or when I needed a promotion/salary increase that could only be attained by having a master degree.)
    source: compsci textbooks, cboard.cprogramming.com, world wide web, common sense

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    I'm going to be headed to PhD grad school (in psyc not CS) in a couple years, and I'm hoping that schools will may me to come.

    ...

    except the dissertation, that kinda scares me.
    I'm sure you can find someone to help you proofread.

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