University Coursework - NOT ASKING FOR CODE!

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    Angry University Coursework - NOT ASKING FOR CODE!

    At UWE Bristol [UK], we have been given this coursework; I am in the process of complaining as out of about 20 students, that I know of, only 1 or 2 have managed to complete the coursework, I haven't managed to even start as I don't have a clue where to start and the lecturer is never available to ask for help (he's a total waste of time, and if you are thinking of coming to UWE, his name is Peter Martin; you have been warned if you have a module with him, you will have to teach yourself everything!

    well, here is the coursework, none of us have ever done C++ programming modules at university (some may have previous c++ experience, but most of us do not!) ...I was just wandering how complex this coursework really is as for me it is impossible! I will be taking the resit, the deadline is now passed so posting code is not necessary! well, here is a link to the specification! I would just like to know; is this a bit unfair for a second year module (note; this module is worth a quater of the second year credits (30), and we only started it in January, and teaching time was 4hours a week and the lecturer is never available, and never replies to emails) I am very angry, it has ruined my chances of getting a 1st for my second year! I am very tempted to take this story to the national press!

    NOTE: We have never been taught anything about XML parsing in any of the lectures! its just all teach yourself!

    here is the url....

    http://www.cems.uwe.ac.uk/~pcsmarti/...assignment.htm

    If you have time, your opinions would be much appriciated! - I can put any points forward in my complaint to the university.

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    Isn't this related to something you posted a little earlier?
    tinyxml & C++
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahluka
    Isn't this related to something you posted a little earlier?
    tinyxml & C++
    Yep! it is indeed!!! ...but i need to hand in something just so i can do the resit coursework! ...have been busy writing a device driver and haven't had enough time to do both! ...as have many of my fellow students!

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    Is the device driver something to do with the same course / another course, or is it a hobby? I'm pretty sure coursework is given for a reason.

    Sorry if it seems like I'm not buying your story, it's just, I'm not.

    EDIT: Ok ok. I don't think a lecturer can be that bad can he? Maybe you're all misunderstanding him. Hmm.
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    Bob,

    This really belongs on the General Discussion board...

    Does the Computer Science department have a list of tutors? Or, maybe you can form a study group and "bribe" one of the successful students to give you some guidance.

    Complaining is fine, but you need to find a strategy for success. In the unlikely event that something does get changed at the University, it will probably be too late for you.... after they realize that 18 students have failed!

    Ok ok. I don't think a lecturer can be that bad can he? Maybe you're all misunderstanding him. Hmm.
    Uhhhh... Yes, they can!!!!

    I went to California State Universities (Cal Poly SLO and San Jose State). In the State University system, most of the classes are actually taught by the professor, and the professor is required to have "office hours" when the students can stop by. At the time, I didn't appreciate how unique this was.

    At the more elite universities, the classes are often taught by assistants. The professors are not very accessible. If you need help, probably have to find a tutor.

    At community colleges, your instructor might have a "day job" (or night job) as a programmer. He/she will usually be very accessible and friendly with the students.

    Doug.

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    As far as the "your on your own, learn it yourself" mentality, my advice is get used to it. I encounter this type of thing all the time, and the more you do it, the better you get at it. You are learning a skill by doing this. When you graduate and get a job which uses a technology your not familiar with, what are you going to do? Do you expect someone to hold your hand and walk you through your work? You need to quickly adapt and learn on the fly.

    Now, before I sound like too much of an .............., there is a limit to the *neglect* a professor should give. They should definately have office hours or have a TA available to help. Most of the ones I've dealt with will also point to a chapter in a book or post a link on their website to give you some type of insight into the domain of the work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobthebullet990
    At UWE Bristol [UK], we have been given this coursework; I am in the process of complaining as out of about 20 students, that I know of, only 1 or 2 have managed to complete the coursework, I haven't managed to even start as I don't have a clue where to start and the lecturer is never available to ask for help (he's a total waste of time, and if you are thinking of coming to UWE, his name is Peter Martin; you have been warned if you have a module with him, you will have to teach yourself everything!
    I'd be very careful with this kind of comment. Unless you can back this up, it could be considered libel and could be legally actionable.

    as for the work, I gave you a good starting point with your problem and yet, instead of replying to me and working on your problem, you're wasting your time whining about your professor. Uni is not school, you are expected to show initiative and teach yourself.
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    > I would just like to know; is this a bit unfair for a second year module
    Should have been a first year module IMO.
    Year 2 was for writing small compilers.

    > this module is worth a quater of the second year credits
    Back in my day, this would have been more like 10%

    > and we only started it in January, and teaching time was 4hours a week
    Awww - and I missed my entire ADA course and still managed to pass.

    > NOTE: We have never been taught anything about XML parsing in any of the lectures!
    You really ought to get used to doing some independent research all on your own.

    Yes, you may have had a poor tutor, but sooner or later you'll meet other people who suck at their jobs as well, so consider this an opportunity to learn how to deal with them.

    Find out what the two who passed did to pass, and emulate their work ethic.
    Unless of course they just "struck lucky" and managed to find a website where someone did their homework for them

    I agree with DougDbug, your only real course is to get everyone on the course (including the two who passed) to complain about something specific
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    ...it could be considered libel and could be legally actionable.
    I wouldn't worry about that. Libel laws vary from country to country, but I assume in the UK you are allowed to publish your opinion. If you mis-stated a fact, like saying that he doesn't have a degree, or that he robs banks when he's supposed to be holding office hours, that would be libel! (..Unless you could prove it.)
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    It seems that the link has everything you need to know about parsing XML files (with the use of the QTToolKit). I completely understand your frustration, I transferred from a university computer science program to a maritime academy engineering program, but a university degree would be worth absolutely nothing if it wasn't, you know, challenging as hell.

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    I just wanted to say, good luck nonetheless, whatever happens. I hope you get this sorted out and get a hold of whatever university happens to throw at ya. Just remember, you don't want to get stuck working at a mill or a burger king the rest of your life
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    The assignment seems fair for 2 months into second year.

    Oh how I wish I wasn't still in high school, taking no cs courses, with less than a year of self-taught cs knowledge, so that I could have that assignment as 25% of my grade.
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