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    Dev-Cpp

    Allows you to create either c or cpp programs, windows applications and work with OpenGL.

    What's more its all for free and can be downloaded using a dial-up.

    Nice joke Sly

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    borland's kylix
    which is thier c++ Builder and Delphi ide's in one.

    and is linux app.

    the only issue, it requires the 2.4 series kernel, will not install on a system running the 2.6 series kernel.
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    MSVC 6.0 is the best IDE. There isn't a single thing about it that I dislike, except the fact that it comes with a poor excuse of a C compiler.

    On Linux I use vi(m). Not because it is great, but because it is available, and it's the best console based IDE to work with (which isn't saying much). I haven't found a good GUI IDE for linux yet that I like. If anyone has any good suggestions, feel free to PM me

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    Quote Originally Posted by bithub
    MSVC 6.0 is the best IDE. There isn't a single thing about it that I dislike, except the fact that it comes with a poor excuse of a C compiler.
    Um, sorry, could you repeat that? Have you tried any other Windows IDE's?
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    Recently got VS 8 2005, and I have to say it is by far the best IDE i've ever used. Pretty much everything about it is awesome. Starting with the debugger down the the little pop up that shows you all the members of the class when you type the .
    Easy to use interface.
    Many optimization options
    Visual Dialog Designer
    Really good compiler


    Just love it. Totaly worth the money.
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    IDE's like DevCpp (which I love) are useful, but they're essentially not much more than text editors that pipe stuff to the compiler.

    The best IDE right now has to be Visual Studio .NET 2005. Integrated unit testing, a host of (.NET) languages supported, an excellent GUI designer, ASP.NET (web) designer support, the most awesome Intellisense, a class designer, refactoring tools and so many other things that let you get on with doing what you have to do really makes it the best IDE.

    Theres also a load of other cool things, like the Immediates window that lets you query whats inside an given variables while the program is running, or the way you can right click a class and click "Go to definition" to navigate to the source file the class is designed in.

    There's also FxCop inbuilt, which scans your code and points out places where you've done something that isn't smart, like formatting a string as a currency but not taking into account the locality and how they display currencies.

    Since I know 90% of you are rolling your eyes at the Microsoft boy, who isn't cool because he doesn't use VIM (which I do when I'm on Linux), take a few moments to look at these:

    This is Visual Studio Team System, where you can design an entire distributed application:
    http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en...h-fig01big.gif

    This is the designer, for when it comes to Windows Forms GUI stuff:
    http://aaronbrethorst.members.winisp...es/TabsA_1.png

    As you attach the debugger and step through code (I doubt you can even do that with DevCpp and other text editors) you can pause anywhere and see what's in a variable/object:
    http://www.devx.com/assets/articlefigs/12655.jpg

    And heres a screenie by me (from a pet project I've been working on):
    http://www.paulstovell.net/Images/vs2005.png
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahluka
    I can't wait until the .NET 2005 IDE hits the shelves - it's only in beta stage now, right? I'll have a looky in a minute anyhow.
    Dude, your dream has come true! It hit the shelves last month I've been using the betas of 2005 at work for the last year (on commercial projects) and I'm glad it's finally out. You can also download the VS2005 Express products for free

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    Um, sorry, could you repeat that? Have you tried any other Windows IDE's?
    Yes. I don't use dev-cpp due to it's lack of a good debugger (on par with MSVC's). As for the newer MSVC versions, I dislike the fact that they are built on .NET. It's painfully obvious when you try to run these on slower computers. It's always fun to wait 3 seconds just to minimize and maximize a window. Aside from the .NET aspect, the newer versions of MSVC have a different way of navigating MFC functions that I don't like. I like version 6.0's method of handling member variables, and MFC overrides. Maybe that's just me though. Perhaps you can explain why you think version 6.0 is inferrior to other Windows IDEs?

    EDIT: I haven't used any MSVC versions newer than 2003. I hear 2005 is great, but I will reserve judgement until I get a chance to try it out myself.
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    Does anyone use Dev-C++ to write commercial projects?

    I use MSVCv6 at work but prefer the .NET versions and use them at home.

    A big disadvantage of the MSVC IDE is that it can be used to write VB apps.......
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    Favorite IDE? Well, I have many IDEs that I use for many purposes, although, I must say, Eclipse is probably the most well put together and professional IDE I've ever seen before, so it probably ranks first. I use it mainly for Java which I'm learning right now.

    Dev-C++ is great because it's free, has some neat features (ESPECIALLY the package manager,) but the syntax highlighting sucks rock, and code completion does suck and take time to load.

    Emacs has more features than any other editor in existance. The problem with Emacs is that indentation with it is lame as hell (i.e. really needs fixing) and it's got a super steep learning curve. However, knowing Emacs is a must for me, because I find myself using many free SSH accounts, so when I need an editor, Emacs is the first place I go.

    I use textpad for a lot of my C/C++ coding these days, it's fast, has some really neat features, easy to use, and has good syntax highlighting. I used to use Textpad for Java, but Eclipse has taken over that.


    Truth be told I've never used a Microsoft DevKit for development, but all of my friends say they are totally amazing in that respect. So therefore when I get back to XP pretty soon you can guarantee the first thing I'm going to do after internet connection is get one of those new sweet free .NET IDEs that they're giving out for a year right now.

    A big disadvantage of the MSVC IDE is that it can be used to write VB apps.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by stovellp
    Dude, your dream has come true! It hit the shelves last month I've been using the betas of 2005 at work for the last year (on commercial projects) and I'm glad it's finally out. You can also download the VS2005 Express products for free
    Is that just in the USA or Europe too (sorry, I don't know if they release it everywhere at once)

    That screenie of your "pet project"; what resolution is it in? Offtopic, I'm just curious.

    Anyway I totally agree. Some regulars around here might remember I've never routed for .NET IDE's or Microsoft, but 2003 is just brilliant - everything a programmer could want. Almost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahluka
    Is that just in the USA or Europe too (sorry, I don't know if they release it everywhere at once)
    I can't confirm Europe (Europeans are always sleeping or on holidays, so maybe they are going to bother releasing it), but I know it's out in the USA, Korea and Australia (me!). But since you can download it from the internet, as long as they have the internet in your castles over there, then I'd say yes it's available.

    Quote Originally Posted by ahluka
    That screenie of your "pet project"; what resolution is it in? Offtopic, I'm just curious.
    1024x768, only I cropped the start bar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stovellp
    I can't confirm Europe (Europeans are always sleeping or on holidays, so maybe they are going to bother releasing it), but I know it's out in the USA, Korea and Australia (me!). But since you can download it from the internet, as long as they have the internet in your castles over there, then I'd say yes it's available.



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    Castles? Ha! Sleeping & hols, ok.
    Cool. I'll give it a couple of months and nip down to my local PC World - generally they overprice software, but it'll go down over time like 2003. I suppose.
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