Opera 8.50 - Now free!

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    First impression: I'm not able to drag around my bookmarks in the bookmarks menu.
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    but you can use mouse gestures, drag links and images around, drag open tabs around, move bookmarks to your customizeable menu and then drag them around, and in general be a better more attractive person.

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    All of which can be done in FF, I'm uninstalling.
    Hmm

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    B0bDole, god forbid anyone should do it better than Firefox?!

    Personally, I'm gonna stick with Opera for now. Even if the featureset doesn't include tons more compared to Firefox, it does run better for me. Especially here at work.

    I do suggest that you try Opera for more than a few hours, just because product Foo has a similar featureset it doesn't mean it's the best choice. Give product Bar a try too.

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    The only problem that Opera has is that it doesnt have an Auto Complete form. But overall its faster,, uses lesser resource, Doesnt Freeze as much as firefox and last but not the least its the most beautiful browser there is

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    We're holding on to our claim: "The Fastest Browser on Earth". In Opera 8, further improvements have been made in the way the browser reads pages to allow you to fly the Web.

    end quote

    What's a good site to test I wondered? Well I used www.shockwave.com, that has a lot of stuff to load on the first page. So here's how I tested Opera's claim. I used an ADSL 1.544Mbps downstream/256Kbps upstream from TPG in Australia. My system is an AMD Athlon 2700+, with 1GB DDR333 Ram and only the approriate browser open at the time. I compared the page load times of www.shockwave.com through the four most used browsers, Opera, Firefox, Netscape and IE. Each browser was the latest release from their companies as of 22/09/2005. I reloaded the page ten times and then calcualted the average loading time for www.shockwave.com.

    I have some very interesting results.

    Firefox

    * Fastest load time, 6.6 seconds.
    * Slowest load time, 8.1 seconds.
    * Average load time, 7.5 seconds.

    Opera

    * Fastest load time, 7.4 seconds
    * Slowest load time, 9.6 seconds
    * Average load time, 8.6 seconds

    Internet Explorer

    * Fastest load time, 9.8 seconds
    * Slowest load time, 15.5 seconds
    * Average load time, 12.1 seconds

    Netscape 8.0

    * Fastest load time, 9.0 seconds
    * Slowest load time, 9.6 seconds
    * Average load time, 9.3 seconds

    It's interesting to note that while Netscape and Firefox use the gecko engine, Netscape is slower than Firefox yet more consistent in its page load time. IE is by far the worst performer.

    So Opera's claim to be the fastest browser on the web is busted for me. Firefox was 1.6 seconds faster overall. To trully test this to the limit I would like people on dial-up and broadband in other countries to do the same. Test the load times and post them here. Let's get right down to the nitty gritty of it.
    sorry couldn't resist poking holes in the "fast" argument.
    faster than ie and netscape, but firefox and mozilla are faster.

    lynx beats them all for speed.


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    Opera is now free with no ads permanently.
    check thier site the bad site design spalsh page says so.
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    So it loads faster? Big deal. Windows ME supposedly boots and shuts down way faster than previous Windows operating systems. Also it was supposed to come with "very useful features."

    Personally what I want in a browser is not faster loading or fancy bookmark features. I want compliance with the standards - HTML, CSS, etc. Fewer crashes and security holes are nice and all but I could care less. I'm running Windows XP - what's the point of increasing browser security when the OS itself has more holes than it does?

    Oh and for those who want a comparsion of standards compliance, check out these links:

    http://nanobox.chipx86.com/browser_support.php
    http://nanobox.chipx86.com/browser_support_html.php
    http://nanobox.chipx86.com/browser_support_css.php
    http://nanobox.chipx86.com/browser_s...ecmascript.php

    Have fun!

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    Think of all the things you could get accomplished in those 1.1 seconds between average loading of FF and Opera.

    You could:
    -Type a word
    -Take a sip of coffee
    -Begin to pick your nose

    Feel free to add your own

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    - uninstall Opera
    Hmm

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    perform over 1 billion(a safe generalization)
    additions
    subtractions
    movs
    shifts

    and of course some context switches

    - feel free to add to the list

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    - Press the power button
    - Compile a program
    - Allocate 256MB of RAM to a pointer

    The possibilties are endless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loko
    The only problem that Opera has is that it doesnt have an Auto Complete form. But overall its faster,, uses lesser resource, Doesnt Freeze as much as firefox and last but not the least its the most beautiful browser there is
    Ah but there is an auto-complete. Check the preferences. There is a form that you fill out and when you hit a form on a page, it fills in what it can.

    And to Jaqui, "fastest" refers to page loading, not the loading of the browser itself
    EntropySink. You know you have to click it.

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    I'd use it if I had Windows, but I can't stand the look and feel of QT in Linux. Firefox 1.5 Beta is just as fast as Opera for me anyway.

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    ober,

    and what I posted was page loading.
    where opera was fastest, compared to ie and netscape.
    mozilla's tools are actually faster at loading pages.
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    If the average user can put a CD in and boot the system and follow the prompts, he can install and use Linux. If he can't do that simple task, he doesn't need to be around technology.

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