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    Nice reply's, so i forgot i even posted this, thought
    i just dreamed it :/, ohh well thanks for your input.

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    To reply to as many of you as I want:

    1. English wasn't even close to existing when Jesus was alive. Nor, even, is English of the same linguistic family.

    2. Chinese is number one in speakers, English is second, but English is more widespread throughout the world.

    3. All languages are expressive in their own ways. Programming, however, requires no expression - you aren't writing a poem; there are only a few choice words such as "for" "main" and other essentially expressionless words.

    4. Erm....extra punctuation? Funny characters? There is more punctuation, as far as I know, in English than Spanish (even counting, what I think you are saying, the double ! and ?'s). As for funny characters that need to be memorized, yes, that is a problem. But english is close to doing that - "laugh" isn't pronounced anything like it is spelled; What is the difference between having random letters corresponding to a word and having one picture corespond to it? Of course, the Chinese system IS more complicated; you usually cannot guess at any pronunciation, so it is harder in that aspect.

    5. Sanskrit is an ancient langauge. Why not use latin for programming? Because YOU DON'T NEED it. You could make up the damn words - "quia" for "if", "jahs" for "main", it DOESN'T MATTER. In this case, it's all basically the exact same.

    Other languages suck
    French gave English over 30% of English's vobabulary.
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    I love all these stats being pulled out from nowhere....But I'm going to be hypocritical!

    English is the most widespread language in the world. Because of the British Empire, and now the American hyper-imperialistic rule over the world, it is highly advisable for foreign countries to learn it. (Due to commerce and American political influence (and the British political influence before them).

    Plus all the mainstream languages were made by English speaking folk.

    So that's why they're English.


    Also, French is actually the second most widespread language in the world.

    I hate it when people spring up stats from nowhere ...But a look through some government and popular organisation owned websites will help you out if you become curious on the matters of the worlds linguistic ways.

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    Heres my guess:

    C is in english because it was invented at Bell labs in the USA (IIRC).

    C++ uses english because it extends C.

    C# uses english because it was created by Microsoft (a USA company).

    Basic/Pascal/Cobol etc were probably all in C either because they were invented in a predominantly english country, or because they derive from other languages that were, or at the time they realized most of the programmers around knew English.

    Most programming languages today use English because those of yesterday did, and because 90% of programmers out there are used to programming in english.

    Personally if I had to learn spanish just to learn PHP, I'd be pretty dissapointed.

    As an example, lets take two C programmers, Bob and Bill. Bill speaks Mandarin natively, but also knows decent English (which he probably would to use C), and Bob only speaks English because that's all he needs. If you were inventing a new programming language, which would be smarter - Mandarin or English?

    When you invent your own programming language, use Spanish or French or Chinese or whatever you speak natively. Chances are it won't be as popular as it could have been if you wrote it in English.

    If Bulgarians had invented the computer, along with assembly language and BASIC, then maybe we'd all be speaking Bulgarianese in code. But they didn't, an English-speaking country did, and thats the way it happened. For the same reason URL's aren't written in chinese.

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    Can you explain....bongo language for the net then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twigstar
    I hate it when people spring up stats from nowhere ...
    Lurker is actually right that about 30% of the English language has an origin in French, and his claim is not at all "from nowhere":

    Quote Originally Posted by http://www.answers.com/topic/english-language
    A computerised survey of about 80,000 words in the old Shorter Oxford Dictionary (3rd edition) was published in Ordered Profusion by Thomas Finkenstaedt and Dieter Wolff (1973) which estimated the origin of English words as follows:




    • French, including Old French and early Anglo-French: 28.3%
    • Latin, including modern scientific and technical Latin: 28.24%
    • Old and Middle English, Old Norse, and Dutch: 25%
    • Greek: 5.32%
    • No etymology given: 4.03%
    • Derived from proper names: 3.28%
    • All other languages contributed less than 1%
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    "French is only spoken by a very small percentage of the world." By Ober.

    Oh no, you mistook me! I was actually addressing those who said something similar to this sentance - And I'm well aware of the creation of English via the romance languages

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    "French is only spoken by a very small percentage of the world." By Ober.

    Oh no, you mistook me! I was actually addressing those who said something similar to this sentance - And I'm well aware of the creation of English via the romance languages
    Oh, I'm very sorry.... Yeah, I misunderstood....
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    1. English wasn't even close to existing when Jesus was alive. Nor, even, is English of the same linguistic family.
    Oh yeah? The Bible is in English. Proof positive.

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    Oh, man. He got you there, Lurker.

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    English has the best technical vocabulary of any of the languages (also the highest/second highest word count, depending on which study you ask). German is a close second. Other languages, however, do not compare. It's why Torvald's commented the linux kernel code in English, even though it wasn't his native language.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Govtcheez
    Oh yeah? The Bible is in English. Proof positive.
    Jesus didn't write the bible, nor was it originally in English.
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    For someone who's trying so hard to sound smart you're having a hell of a time with obvious sarcasm.

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    If you don't see my posts as sarcasm as well you need to re-read them .
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    The united states is eventually going to take over the world anyway, so english for everything makes the most sense.

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