What does it take?

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    What does it take?

    I've asked myself this question over and over "what does it take to be a really good programmer?" Do I have the ability to be one of the best? Do i have the dedication to program for 36 hours straight without losing sight of my goal? What makes a good programmer? I just want your input to see what you think makes a good programmer.
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    -Quick (thinking)
    -Able to tolerate a lot of bull relating to stupid bugs
    -Able to find, and correct, bugs
    -Doesn't reinvent the wheel as a triangle
    -Is able to use a search engine
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    you make it sound so easy..


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    • "Problem Solving C++, The Object of Programming" -Walter Savitch
    • "Data Structures and Other Objects using C++" -Walter Savitch
    • "Assembly Language for Intel-Based Computers" -Kip Irvine
    • "Programming Windows, 5th edition" -Charles Petzold
    • "Visual C++ MFC Programming by Example" -John E. Swanke
    • "Network Programming Windows" -Jones/Ohlund
    • "Sams Teach Yourself Game Programming in 24 Hours" -Michael Morrison
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    Well, obviously, a certain amount of intelligence is required. Past that, passion and the ability to learn on the go is all you need.
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    You have to be able to come up with really witty phrases with which to comment your code.

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    other than the obious...

    To be a good programmer you have to enjoy doing what you do.

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    Work hard

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perspective
    To be a good programmer you have to enjoy doing what you do.


    Agree 100%. You have infinite possibilities with something you enjoy doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 7smurfs
    -Quick (thinking)
    -Able to tolerate a lot of bull relating to stupid bugs
    -Able to find, and correct, bugs
    -Doesn't reinvent the wheel as a triangle
    -Is able to use a search engine
    A few more:

    - The ability to leap large, dry technical manuals in a single bound
    - An ego big enough to handle the fact that you will only be right once, but you can fail many times in the edit-compile-debug cycle
    - Friends and family that can handle your absent-mindedness when your head is wrapped around a problem you haven't figured out yet
    - The understanding that a deadline is as helpful as it is annoying


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    Quote Originally Posted by BobMcGee123
    Work hard
    Work smart

    Also, good programmers know much more than just programming. Often domain (business) knowledge is far more important. If all you can do is take a spec and write code, you'll never be the best.

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    Being able to work smart, and all of that other junk, you will learn over time if you are working hard. Otherwise you'll just remain in a perpetual state of retardation in which you need to ask programmers on an online message board how to 'get good.'

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    Often domain (business) knowledge is far more important. If all you can do is take a spec and write code, you'll never be the best.
    meh, most of the people here just seem to be amateurs who dont' give a flying horseas5 about business, and the op only really seems to care about programming. I read the slashdot article about how it's increasingly important for coders to know more about the business side of things, but that only applies for coders that actually want a programming job. The path of many here is to have a job outside of programming and keep coding purely as a hobby so it like, you know, remains fun (real programming jobs often aren't).
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    It seems that the general idea is to love coding and not think about it as a chore. Anyway that is what stands out as the main thought for me. I understand the concept of understanding business but i feels to me as if it perhaps is against the spirit of programming. Jst an opinion. How many hours do you have to code to become good.At this stage Im so green that there isn't much posts i can post on the forums because i dont really have an idea.
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    When I see people asking "How many hours a day do I need to code to get good" I honestly think they're in the wrong frame of mind. Nobody here does programming all day everyday...the ones that do claim to do that are completely full of crap, and even if you DO manage to code all day everyday for a while (a day or two, a week, maybe a month), you certainly cannot do it forever...I don't care who you are.

    What does working hard as a programmer mean? Well, sit down and write programs. When you get confused, seek out resources and be willing to think about the problem at hand and be willing to read the resources you have (whether it be books, online material, or me in an AIM chat conversation).

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    So it is not quantity but quality...
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    This was not an encouraging opening for a conversation. Alice replied, rather shyly, `I--I hardly know, sir, just at present-- at least I know who I WAS when I got up this morning, but I think I must have been changed several times since then.' - Lewis Caroll's Alice in Wonderland.

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