USS San Francisco

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    USS San Francisco

    Check this out. I couldn't imagine that happening to me. They lost 1 sailor and another is critically injured with back injuries. I know something like 40 people were injured to the point of not being able to stand watch (aka broken bones, lacerations, ect).

    Just whoa.

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    They hit an underwater sea mountain doing the equivalent of around 40 mph. BTW - roughly the size of a football field (the submarine)
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    Let me guess... the sonar GPFed?

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    That's really scary stuff. I would hate to be in a submarine, the claustrophobia and what not. Some time ago (70s I think?) a US submarine (called the thresher I think) collapsed due to pressure, everyone died. Then what happened to the kirsk...eek. I've also heard of explosives going off inside ships and people suffocated (the blast used up all of the oxygen in the lower decks), but I think that was on surface ships not submarines.
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    Yeah, the Thresher went down due to many, many problems. She wound up sinking until she passed her crush depth. All hands lost.

    As for the claustrophobia thing you wind up getting use to it. After a while you just don't even think about it, although it is weird to see the sun again.
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    Wait, are/were you a sailor?

    You know what they say about sailors, cute stuff
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    Yep, been in over 5 years now. Actively serving on a sub right now.
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    Oh, wow. That's pretty cool dude. So evidently we've got a marine on the website and a sailor.

    edit: yes, I did just call you dude. Sorry.
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    Who's the jarhead, err marine?
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    Thantos.

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    I measured it out and from what I can tell from the message traffic I got the poor kid who didn't make was thrown around 8 to 10 ft before crashing head first into 'a big metal pump'(not sure what name allowed to use).

    It just like whoa. I mean there you are sitting, sleeping, walking whatever and then bam! Your big football field sized submarine goes from doing roughly 40 mph to just about nothing as it scraps along the mountain. *shudder*
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    How does a modern submarine with presumably the latest and greatest underwater detection equipment fail to notice a mountain?
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    I don't know the details, and andyhunter probably has a better idea, but I know that sonar can be used in active (emit and detect sound) or passive (detect sound from other objects). Presumably, a mountain is rather quiet, and if the crew had no reason to think they were close to terrain, I could see something like this happening.

    Also, with steeply rising terrain, I could forsee problems if the equipment did not look forward (tells you how high you are above the floor, but doesn't bother mentioning that you are about to hit a cliff). Anyway... random speculation on my part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andyhunter
    Who's the jarhead, err marine?
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    I don't know the details, and andyhunter probably has a better idea, but I know that sonar can be used in active (emit and detect sound) or passive (detect sound from other objects).
    And you would be correct. Furthermore to use active sonar is to give away your position so we rarely do.

    The maps in use did not have the mountain listed so the route they layed out to travel was unfortunately through it. And a sounding was taken a couple of minutes before and returned satisfactory depth, thus the whole steeply rising terrain thing.

    And yes, mountains are indeed quiet.
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    Sorry to be a bore, but if they were travelling in "uncharted waters", not using an active bottom sensing sonar or whatever is simple negligence?

    I do not believe the US Navy operates in uncharted waters by the way. Why be afraid of giving your position away to a geological feature? Who is the enemy here you are avoiding? Sounds, (groan), like some cartographic surveying was in order, and justified.
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