Poker bad beats

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    The real problem with poker, especially in a casino environment is this: the house takes a percentage of each pot. Essentially then you can never really win. Of course you can get ahead, but then after any hand there is less money on the table then what was there origionaly.

    i know all about that - the thing i hate the absolute most is when i've been sitting there not playing any hands and then i get a good starting hand and miss on a rag flop, check, get raised, then i re-raise, and then get i called instantly. it's not that they called me that I am sillyI am sillyI am sillyI am sillyes me off, it's that i haven't played a hand in 20 minutes, pushed it before the flop, re-raised them, and then they call me without even considering that maybe, just maybe i have him beat.
    ... this is a good thing, if you've been docile all night then have a hand, and you know you pretty much have him beat for sure, then him adding money to YOUR pot is a very good thing. That is the whole point of not betting to much when you have a good hand.

    As to PJYelton:

    Why did you not just fold? you had the advantage of being the highest chip holder; cut your losses and live another day. There really is no point to let your entire winnings ride on one spontaneous hand.
    if a contradiction was contradicted would that contradition contradict the origional crontradiction?

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    ... this is a good thing, if you've been docile all night then have a hand, and you know you pretty much have him beat for sure, then him adding money to YOUR pot is a very good thing. That is the whole point of not betting to much when you have a good hand.
    In theory, you're right, but whenever that happens to me the other guy manages to catch 2 runners to make a straight or something like that.

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    >>The real problem with poker, especially in a casino environment is this: the house takes a percentage of each pot. Essentially then you can never really win. Of course you can get ahead, but then after any hand there is less money on the table then what was there origionaly. <<

    True in a sense, and if the same 10 guys sit at the same table all day long then you have a point. But so many people coming and going and so many people busting this usually isn't a problem. Also, this implies that all 10 guys win the same amount of money over a given time period in which yeah everyone comes out behind. Play against worse poker players and win more than they do and thats not a problem

    >>Why did you not just fold? you had the advantage of being the highest chip holder; cut your losses and live another day. There really is no point to let your entire winnings ride on one spontaneous hand.<<

    I don't necessarily disagree with you, and obviously given the outcome I wish I had. I took a long time to think about this one before I called, and basically my reasoning was this: True I was the chip leader but there were at least 2 other guys relatively close to me, it would take very little for either of them to overtake me. Also, first place was what I really wanted since it paid ten times more than second. If I only cared about finishing in the money I would have had no problems folding. Basically at some point I had to make a move to take control, and I was positive my read was right on this guy and I had him absolutely wasted in the hand (which I did). With the two rags on the board, I knew at best he had a pocket pair in which case I was over 90% favorite to win, better than if I had folded and waited to call an all in later on with pocket aces. So this was by far my best chance to take control and I think I made the right choice. Unfortunately Lady Luck decided otherwise

    >>In theory, you're right, but whenever that happens to me the other guy manages to catch 2 runners to make a straight or something like that.<<

    Have you heard the ongoing conspiracy theory that these online sites deliberatly do things like this to keep the game interesting and to keep people playing? Lot of people swear that the major poker sites do this far more often than is mathematically logical. I haven't played enough online to really have an opinion on it though.

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    I played poker with some friends once, not sure if I won. We played for monopoly money. I didn't really care and always went on to the last round even though I didn't even had a single pair. I won the two first rounds though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dissata



    ... this is a good thing, if you've been docile all night then have a hand, and you know you pretty much have him beat for sure, then him adding money to YOUR pot is a very good thing. That is the whole point of not betting to much when you have a good hand.

    i guess i forgot to mention that i don't have a hand...



    and at the casino there's always new money coming to the table..just don't play short handed and there's plenty of money
    i seem to have GCC 3.3.4
    But how do i start it?
    I dont have a menu for it or anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJYelton

    >>In theory, you're right, but whenever that happens to me the other guy manages to catch 2 runners to make a straight or something like that.<<

    Have you heard the ongoing conspiracy theory that these online sites deliberatly do things like this to keep the game interesting and to keep people playing? Lot of people swear that the major poker sites do this far more often than is mathematically logical. I haven't played enough online to really have an opinion on it though.

    the fair gaming commission doesn't allow poker odds to be varied.
    i seem to have GCC 3.3.4
    But how do i start it?
    I dont have a menu for it or anything.

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    Well, I never said they were doing it legally

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