Firefox in NY Times

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    >> and they aren't going to change for a minority browser

    they will if more people use other browsers.

    and i dont have any mem problems with FF or crash problems. (and my computer hasnt been rebooted in 2wks 5days 7hrs 31mins 30secs

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    I've never had any problems with FF, although, I reboot every time I get off.

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    I thought the memory leak only existed in release before 1.0PR. I used to have the leak in 0.9 I believe, but not in 1.0 currently

    >> they aren't going to change for a minority browser.
    Firefox has gained more respect from more web designers than IE. Most would also start designing for firefox first and then hack it to work in IE. Things will change. Not because firefox is the minority, because it's more standard compliant. If web designers could make sites look good in IE, they sure can make them look as good (if not better) in firefox
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    IE is the minority when it comes to standards compliance

    so I second alphaoide
    Hmm

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    Alpha and Bob,

    I quite agree that IE allows many non-standards to work and FF does not. I also know that IE has 90% of the browser market.

    Now, suppose I am the boss of a company with a vast website. My IT people come to me and say they need $n,000,000 to rewrite the whole thing so that users of FF can see it. I have a shareholders meeting tomorrow, they want dividends increasing. What am I going to tell the IT man?

    Don't get me wrong, I applaud standards. I also live in todays world though, not some future paradise. Things hopefully will change, but if FF wants to be a major player, it has to "work" for the simple Joe Public, fr the sites he wants to look at, and right now, it does not.
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    Okay, not everybody will have the fund, but quite few major websites have redesigned and most importantly any new websites will likely to be compatible with firefox (and also IE) because of the increasing awareness of web designers for cross-browser design.
    I kinda follow the web-designing business, they don't take the small share of firefox lightly. Many (if not all) respectable names in web-designing industry express their suppport toward firefox.
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    Arrggghhh .... Firefox is such a good browser, but it is pretty buggy, at least lately its been. 1.0 seemed a lot buggier than .9 for some reason. and yes, also get those memory crashes sometimes too ... but thats only if i leave my computer on for like a month.

    i dont like browsers that come prebundled with spyware. I'll keep my opera.
    i dont like browsers that come prebundled with ads. I'll keep my firefox.

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    Yeah. Firefox is pretty good, but when I set my computer on fire it crashed!

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    IE lost it's 90% share status months ago. Average statistical comparisons show it to recently average between 70-80%.

    Keep in mind too, it's not just a browser statistic to watch anymore. Windows itself is rapidly losing ground as OS of choice. *nix and Mac are showing an intimidating presence as well (and still growing), which makes IE a moot issue altogether. Even KDE developers have broken ground on incorprating Mozilla's gecko engine into Konqueror.

    Not to mention HP's recent endorsement of Firefox. That'll be a serious blow to MS when HP machines are packaged with Firefox pre installed. Recent studies have also shown other PC manufacturers are wasting an obscene amount of resources on tech support calls due adware/spyware, and are contemplating bundling Firefox as well.

    Mozilla's impact has been a long time coming, but the snowball effect has recently accelerated to a noticeable level.

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    >My IT people come to me and say they need $n,000,000 to rewrite the whole thing so that users of FF can see it. I have a shareholders meeting tomorrow, they want dividends increasing. What am I going to tell the IT man?


    You're write. Though, very wrong.... Big companies with IT "men" build their site right the first time. Using the standards, not FrontPage extensions, IFrames, and countless other IE specific crap. Good try though.

    edit: I challenge you, and anyone else for that matter, to show me a website of a "big" company that doesn't display correctly in FF and only works correctly in IE.
    Hmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aerie
    Lotta' bugs in FF.

    It seriously is NOT a release quality product, no idea what the devs were smoking when they pushed it out the door like that...

    It's still my fav. browser, has been since version .3, but it's still a beta, if you get down to it.

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    I too liked version 0.9 better than 1.0. Just a few little things that bug me. I never noticed too many bugs in the beta either.

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    *sigh* Only if there was IE for Linux, I am sillyI am sillyI am sillyI am silly...

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    IE is wetardud

    edit: on a side note, PC manufacturers (hp, dell, etc) are thinking about bundling FF with their PCs to eliviate the tech support needed for spyware/adware problems from their users using IE.
    Hmm

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    Scribbler, your argument would carry more weight if instead of "Average statistical comparisons" and "Recent studies", you provided links to independent verifiable sources. If you browse anti MS sites the worlkd over you find unsubstantiated claims like that.

    Bobdole, I tried to post a link from FF to the BBC which didn't work, it demostrates a fault I have already posted on the FF forums, it was showing a film of the David Blunkett saga, but before I could do so, I happened to try adjusting the sound level, which wiped out the picture and a few seconds later froze completely...
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