View Poll Results: Are you a Math lover or a Math hater?

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Mathematics : Lover or Hater ?

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    I am OK with math as well leaning towards love I just hate the way it is thought at most schools...nevertheless, I'm glad I only have one math course left: numerical analysis - oh joy! I saw a previous exam, where one of the questions was "prove that 1 + 1 = 2; the sample solution spanned over two sheets of paper (hand written though).

    >>box and wisker charts<<
    I never did these until statistics - or at least don't remember them from high school. It was an easy 5 points on one of my midterms

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    where one of the questions was "prove that 1 + 1 = 2"
    I hate this kind of question. I hate having to prove some mathematical theory or formula. I think i'll never get over it because i don't like math anyway. I'd answer that question with something like "my proof is that you can't prove the opposite". Smart answer , isn't it?

    Believe it or not , im 19 and i still can't do the long division .*shrugs*
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    >>"my proof is that you can't prove the opposite".<<

    actually this is a very powerfull proof technique: proof by contradiciton -I've used it countless times in my computational theory class. To say that you can't do something is just as powerful as saying what you can do - and sometimes it is easier to find the former, and impossible to find the latter!

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    Heh prove that 2 + 2 = 5 then axon

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    that I'll leave to the Underground man - I wonder if anyone will get what I'm saying.

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    actually this is a very powerfull proof technique: proof by contradiciton -I've used it countless times in my computational theory class.
    Yea we took that in discrete math , but its not done (or at least we don't do it) that way. We used to do it in a "mathematical" style with formulas and stuff , so i'd still be having hard time in both cases
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    a tad off topic, but is there a 'name' for, well, the following...

    all numbers which add up to 3 or 9 are divisble by 3 or 9 ...
    ex: 21 (2 + 1 = 3) 21 % 3 = 0
    ex: 18 (1 + 8 = 9) 18 % 9 = 0

    i believe there's something like this for every number up to 10 except for 7.....i remember learning this in elementary school. i would like to look it up and find out the 'magic' behind it.
    i seem to have GCC 3.3.4
    But how do i start it?
    I dont have a menu for it or anything.

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    50 voters and only 2 (including me) hate math .... wow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brain Cell
    50 voters and only 2 (including me) hate math .... wow
    Honestly I think once you really get into programming and understandiing - or wanting to understand how things work you will really develop a 'fondness' at least for mathematics. math is the key to the door of understanding; and the other sciences. without mathematics you're floundering at best.

    Just a sidenote, they say many programmers become really good mathematicians and not necessarily vice versa. I honestly believe this has something to do with a programmer understanding the "non-necessity" of counting in decimal. There is such a door of understanding opened when I realized this and how "symbolic" mathematics really is. I'd say more in this diatribe, but i lost my train of thought. hate it when that happens!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by caroundw5h
    Just a sidenote, they say many programmers become really good mathematicians and not necessarily vice versa.
    I think it is totally the opposite. While both share abstract concepts, Mathematics is much more abstract, rigorous, and difficult to grasp than anything in everyday programming. Essentially, Mathematics teaches a person to think about problems very well, and because of this the transition for a well learned Mathematician to programming is trivial. On the other hand, the transition for well learned programmer to mathematics would probably be a bit harder. It would really depend on the programmers experience and other factors of course. But in general, the transition from either to the other can be done because both contain several things that need to be thought about abstractly.

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    I like math...
    I used to hate it when I was at school because most of my math teachers were bad ones. I think your teacher is right, when it comes to programming you should at least be OK with math. If you want to get a university degree in computer science you must be OK with math. I had 6 math courses at the university, and most other courses are somehow related to math.

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    Sometimes the problem isn't in the math itself, it's just that you've never been tought math right
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    I don't know that I've used a whole lot of math in programming. If you do a lot of game programming, I can see uses for it. I think the connection is that if you're good at technical things, you're good at technical things. People who are talented and interested in computers tend to be good at math. Being well trained in one area then probably just flows into another because it develops your brain in a very similar way.

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    Another math lover here, its the next best thing to playing chess!
    Man's mind once streched by a new idea, never regains its original dimensions
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    In other words, if you teach your cat to bark (output) and eat dog food (input) that doesn't make him a dog. It would have to chase cars, chew bones, and have puppies before I'd call it Rover ;-)
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    I like Go..

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    But in fact what we do in math at University is memmorize a bunch of steps to remmember how to solve a dumb problem that will never have practical use.

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