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    A pro-choice girl in my class recently got angry at the teacher for killing a spider walking across her desk. I jokingly pointed out that she supported abortion and her reply was, "babies don't kill mosquitoes".

    Didn't she make a choice to engage in sexual activites which have been medically shown to be the number 1 cause of pregency?
    True, but (although thanks to this whole Amber Frie business we don't know for sure) Laci was in a much more stable position than some teenager in high school who gets drunk and makes a bad choice she's not prepared to live with. Laci and Scott were probably trying have a baby, and were prepared to provide for him.

    Besides, when did the whole argument turn to Laci getting an abortion? Sure, discussing a double murder charge is relevant, but Laci wasn't going to get an abortion. To echo Thantos, there's a big difference between being murdered while pregnant, and getting an abortion.

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    I don't hate that answer, its a tough question.

    Btw who in the hell gave me neg rep for my first post in this thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thantos
    Btw who in the hell gave me neg rep for my first post in this thread?
    I don't know but it sure wasn't me I can tell you that much for sure.

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    Yeah, its someone who's jealous of my jelly bean count.

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    This is nice. From my feedback
    It is not based on the Constitution -- it contradicts the constitution and is an unconstitutional decision.
    Your opinion notwithstanding (whoever left this), the decision IS based on the Constitution, as are all SCOTUS decisions.

    It'd be pretty cool if whoever left me that would own up to it.

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    Rape is an absolute exception. Be it abortion or adoption, lay that blame upon the sex offender not upon the woman who was done completely and utterly wrong. As to when its considered a life form? I think its kinda case by case, honestly.

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    Well then I don't consider you a life form so I should be able to terminate you. But I can't. Why because at some point we have to say "This is a life form, this isn't a life form". You can't say its case by case because then where do you draw the line?

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    > Well then I don't consider you a life form so I should be able to terminate you. But I can't

    Let's consider who we're talking about here.

    For serious, though, it's not who you personally deem "not a lifeform", it's what society (or lawmakers, or whoever) decides what is/isn't a lifeform.

    edit: Case by case isn't a good idea, either.

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    Well I don't think many in society would disagree with me in this case

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    Hmm, solid reply you make a good point. How about we define life in its true sense for a moment.

    Life - The property or quality that distinguishes living organisms from dead organisms and inanimate matter, manifested in functions such as metabolism, growth, reproduction, and response to stimuli or adaptation to the environment originating from within the organism.

    Considering all of these, its very hard to be in my opinion, and here is why. If we define life as a "response to stimuli", or "growth", than anything that is not man made is officially a living thing and for that matter it is illegal to kill it.

    So from that stance, abortion is murder. However, there is a point of "life" of the fetus at which it is not aware it is even alive, to the best of our knowledge. It is in this time period the decision to, or not to, abort must be made.

    Accidents happen, and some can be corrected. Sadly the majority of abortions in this country are probably not due to reasons i would consider just, such as rape, but rather because hillbilly hussie brandie, from trailer park b, sleeps with alot of guys with no protection and couldnt give two craps. Thats not right, BUT, would we rather the baby was born into a family sure to put the majority of his youth on cops?

    Are some kids not better off? Abortion is very severe in its existence, and sometimes, yes its wrong, but in some cases, the other options are far worse. I mean, if we leave it up to the goverment, they would deny the vast majority of abortions. We've already stated that this majority is trailer trash hoebags having kids by different raced parents.

    So do we deny the public choice, and flood it with trailer trash crime children? Or do we suck up the slight lack of morality and disguist and turn our heads for the better of mankind?

    Personally, i choose the latter.

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    However, there is a point of "life" of the fetus at which it is not aware it is even alive, to the best of our knowledge.
    In this case, the best of our knowledge is pretty darn pathetic.

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    I agree, but i mean, its what we have.

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    Oh yeah: Hey stupid (Ev) its called choice. While I do not support abortion, I do see a big difference between abortion and a 3rd party murdering the child.
    definition of murder:

    # The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially with premeditated malice.
    Basically your argument is that a fetus is a person if I as a third party kill it, but it is just an extension of a woman's body if she gets an abortion. I believe that at most I should be charged with assault and be sued for some personal damages(like if I cut someone's hand off against their will).

    how can destroying a group of cells that only has the potential to be human be considered murder in one case, but something ok in another. That is a pretty blatant double standard, and I disagree with the idea of a double standard in a law, especially one that involves a right as basic as abortion.

    in relating this to the case, I think that the conviction of 1st degree murder is ok, but the second conviction lays the presidence for someone being charged for murder for killing a woman that has a previously unknown status of pregnancy.
    there used to be something here, but not anymore

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    Dude, when are you going to see the point that everyone is trying to make?? You would have a case IF the baby was of abortion age, but it wasn't. The fetus was 9-months and any mother aborting a baby at that age WOULD be considered a murderer.

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    He cant hear us, the ignorance has clogged his ears.

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