Bush vs. Kerry

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    Well, with Kerry as President and Congress under Republican control, you can't have expected a lot of stuff to get through.

    > a raving lunatic (Libertarian candidate)

    hehe, he was hilarious.

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    Well said, Darlen.

    Since I can't be King and fix all of our problems I'll do the next best thing and vote for the lesser of two evils.
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    Dalren, although my views differ from yours I do respect them. The only problem I have though is accusing the Democrats of bashing Republicans. Does it happen a lot? Of course. BUT you have to realize it happens both ways. I've been called an immoral tree-hugging baby-killing flaming liberal wussicrat probably as much as you've been called an ignorant bible-thumping conservative. If you had views that were closer to Democratic views I'm betting (depending on where you live) you'd be accusing the Republicans of doing this instead. Or maybe its just the people you hang out with or the area you live in. I just don't think its fair to say that Democrats solely do this, when instead its the idiots who can't make an argument so instead resort to bashing, and lets face it, both parties have a LOT of these idiots.

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    mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/bushˇtt
    ....guess who I would have voted for

    *note: if you want to visit the site you have to replace the i in bushˇtt with...well...another i, or it wont work
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    Quote Originally Posted by FillYourBrain
    wow...
    ?
    Sorry, but I have no intention of defending Clinton.

    Dalren, out of curiosity, how did you view Badnarik as a raving lunatic?
    The word rap as it applies to music is the result of a peculiar phonological rule which has stripped the word of its initial voiceless velar stop.

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    > Dalren, out of curiosity, how did you view Badnarik as a raving lunatic?

    I'm gonna go with the "If elected, I'm going to give the occupants of the UN 2 weeks to get out and then blow up the building."

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    Err... Where did that come from?
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    PJ please don't think I believe only democrats bash the otherside, I completly agree with you. That part of my post was really me fliping out over the stuff I have heard on campus here. Really the wave of emails I got wednesday saying that everyone who voted for bush was a moron really got me upset and so they became my target.

    Why is Badnarik a lunatic, well first off a commodity based currency when you are the largest economy in the world is a bad idea, also his ideas on getting rid of the federal reserve make me nervous. Second, well let me quote something written about him

    "Badnarik believes that the federal income tax has no legal authority and that people are justified in refusing to file a tax return until such time as the IRS provides them with an explanation of its authority to collect the tax. He hadn't filed income tax returns for several years. He moved from California to Texas because of Texas' more liberal gun laws, but he refused to obtain a Texas driver's license because the state requires drivers to provide their fingerprints and Social Security numbers. He has been ticketed several times for driving without a license; sometimes he has gotten off for various technical legal reasons, but on three occasions he has been convicted and paid a fine. He also refused to use postal ZIP codes, seeing them as "federal territories." --- http://www.libertyunbound.com/archiv...ark_horse.html

    Thats why

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    Hmm... I know a number of Libertarians (myself included), and I don't believe that any one of them knew about that stuff. I am a bit skeptical of some of it (until I can verify it, some of that seems a bit outlandish). Nothing in the paragraph you posted strikes me as more than peculiar (the driver's license bit). I could legitimately see someone protesting the IRS. Some of the other stuff in that article is a bit disturbing. I must confess that I did not know a lot about him prior to his nomination. The other two I knew a bit about, but not him. So, when I was researching him after his nomination, it seems that a good bit of that information was not as readily available as it should have been (as per Libertarian ideology).

    I do appreciate the info.
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    No problem Dalren. That really sucks that that happened, what school is this at?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJYelton
    No problem Dalren. That really sucks that that happened, what school is this at?
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    > Err... Where did that come from?

    Not a direct quote, but paraphrased, and it was from his website. If elected, he was also going to wear a pistol to his inauguration.

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    >>When I say that abortion is wrong,

    I don't care if it is right or wrong.
    I disagree with the effort to take the choice from the people involved and put it in government hands.
    same with gay marriage. At least legislate so gay de-facto relationships are recognised.

    >>There are two kinds of people who use the phrase "tax cuts for the rich"

    The answer to FYB's question is all to do with 'disposable income'.
    This is the amount of money you have after you have paid tax and necessities (food, rent ect).
    Someone who has lots of disposable income is rich.
    Poor people have none.

    In our society we take care of those who can't take care of themselves.
    GWB's idea is that the rich will invest the tax cut and so create more wealth and so pay more tax.
    This wealth will over time, 'trickle down' to the poor.

    In the mean time the government collects less money to spend on public services (to help the poor).
    In effect the rich are being paid by the government to take care of the poor (when it is the governments job).

    Do you think the rich are doing a good job of helping the poor?
    Or are they just getting richer?

    >>What if I told you that those making 28,400 were taxed 25% and those making 311,950 were taxed 35%?

    I would LOVE it!

    Australia's top tax rate hits at $62,500 and is 47%. At $21,601 you start paying 30%.

    I pay $16,182 + 47% of all income over $62,500. Then I pay a 10% goods and services tax on all purchases.

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    When I say Socialism is wrong, and that the democrats spend too much money, you call me a stupid greedy pig just because I believe I have a right to what I create.
    Granted i wouldn't call you a stupid greedy pig, and i certainly think there is debate open for how much public spending there should be, but i don't find it that suprising that within academic institutions there is little support for those who believe that all that they earn is off their own back and hence should be theirs.

    When I say that abortion is wrong, you call me a stupid bible thumper (once again, Im an atheist and you call me a bible thumper). The democrats don't seem to be able to handle the fact there people disagree with them
    Most objection to abortion stems from religious views, surely you are not called a Christianista after you explained your reasoning?
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    Clyde, now it might seem like I'm splitting hairs, but the Catholic Church's opposition to abortion-- contrary to what Kerry said--isn't an article of faith but part of the natural law; that is, someone may reject abortion merely on grounds that the fetus is a biological human being.

    Furthermore, the distinction presents a dilemma for anyone who says, "I believe the fetus is human being by faith," but "I won't impose by religion on someone else." Because these people, admitively, have faith that the fetus is a human being, they should be more confident the fetus is a human being than someone who believes merely by the evidence. And, yet, are decisions made by belief or evidence? Evidence must be first believed; otherwise, what evidence shows is worthless. But this faith in evidence, however, isn't religious; it's common sense, solidified by our experiences.

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