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    If you're talking about the war (I assume you are) both candidates realize that we didn't start the war. And yes, Iraq as part of the Arab-world-full-of-dictators-that-attacked-us-first is part of the war no matter how you look at it. WMD was never the issue. A staging ground for fighting the Arab-world-full-of-dictators-that-attacked-us-first is.

    I was actually comfortable that Kerry would have continued the war against terrorism. This is why he never laid down any "plans". He was always planning on the same thing as Bush. This is why he was seen as a flip flopper. He claimed to be against the things that he was for during election time. He will go back to supporting the war effort now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FillYourBrain
    That gives me respect for John Kerry. It is better to get past this sillyness that Gore went through. The news media kept trying to push the lawsuit angle over the past couple weeks. I'm glad Kerry has more self respect than that. Bravo.
    Gore not conceding was appropriate in 2000. It was not clear what had happened in Florida then. Kerry, however, had no leg to stand on having lost both electoral and popular, and with no "irregularities" in Ohio.

    I must say, I have respect for the Secretary of State of Ohio. The way he handled the medias stupid questions last night made it pretty clear that he fully intended to do his job and do it professionally.
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    You appear to be either completely lost or just ignoring me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FillYourBrain
    If you're talking about the war (I assume you are) both candidates realize that we didn't start the war. And yes, Iraq as part of the Arab-world-full-of-dictators-that-attacked-us-first is part of the war no matter how you look at it. WMD was never the issue. A staging ground for fighting the Arab-world-full-of-dictators-that-attacked-us-first is.

    I was actually comfortable that Kerry would have continued the war against terrorism. This is why he never laid down any "plans". He was always planning on the same thing as Bush. This is why he was seen as a flip flopper. He claimed to be against the things that he was for during election time. He will go back to supporting the war effort now.
    Yeah, I never quite understood the support Kerry had from the anti-war voters as he is not anti-war, nor did he intend (at least in any meaningful way) to pull us out of the Middle East or the rest of the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Govtcheez
    You appear to be either completely lost or just ignoring me.
    My response was to Zach L. Perhaps I should have quoted him. Oh well. Quite honestly, my conversation with him is already far more interesting than the one with you.

    That doesn't change my love for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zach L.
    Yeah, I never quite understood the support Kerry had from the anti-war voters as he is not anti-war, nor did he intend (at least in any meaningful way) to pull us out of the Middle East or the rest of the world.
    It's because he was once anti-war. I think he knows enough about things now to be above that.
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    Ahh... Suppose its in my court to respond, then.

    Quote Originally Posted by FillYourBrain
    If you're talking about the war (I assume you are) both candidates realize that we didn't start the war. And yes, Iraq as part of the Arab-world-full-of-dictators-that-attacked-us-first is part of the war no matter how you look at it. WMD was never the issue. A staging ground for fighting the Arab-world-full-of-dictators-that-attacked-us-first is.

    I was actually comfortable that Kerry would have continued the war against terrorism. This is why he never laid down any "plans". He was always planning on the same thing as Bush. This is why he was seen as a flip flopper. He claimed to be against the things that he was for during election time. He will go back to supporting the war effort now.
    That war is part of it, but is too specific an instance of what I'm getting at. For example, the US foreign policy as it is now is a bit imperialistic (to say the least -- we've got troops all over the place for no apparent reason). Neither one of these candidates is particularly against this imperialist attitude, though. Instead, the argue about how to go about finishing off the Iraq war, and take the imperialist leaning attitude as a given.

    This crops up in many places. The issue of gay marriage for example. The Republicans are (generally) against it, and the Democrats are (generally) for it. Neither party, however, takes on the issue of whether it is the proper function of the government even to have any say at all in what marriage is, or how people choose to live out there lives. It is just taken as given that it does.

    One which is particularly interesting is the Department of Homeland Security. The purpose of said organization is supposedly to, as the name implies, provide for the safety of the US. This, however, seems like the proper function of the military (which is busy in foreign entanglements).
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    Iraq as part of the Arab-world-full-of-dictators-that-attacked-us-first is part of the war no matter how you look at
    How utterly ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentaku senshi
    Well the world now must really hate us, with Bush getting 51% of the populer vote. 3.5 Million more the Kerry.
    If I may comment this issue I must say I think USA is a great country although I've never been in US. And USA is great for only one reason. Number of relatives of mine who surived genocide and Concentration Camps in Bosnia US goverment gave visa and opportunity to have new life, and many of them now have families ot their own. That is sure great thing about America. I think that they have laws that permit people who survived camps to became US citizients.

    Although If I had to choose between Republicans or Democrats I would choose democrats and have selfish reasons. Democrats and persident Clinton stopped war on the Balkans!

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