We need a new homework policy.

This is a discussion on We need a new homework policy. within the A Brief History of Cprogramming.com forums, part of the Community Boards category; Originally Posted by quzah The thing is, then they get all uppity about how great they are for helping dumbass#2435256e245, ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by quzah
    The thing is, then they get all uppity about how great they are for helping dumbass#2435256e245, and how you should be helpful too.
    fixed.

    I wonder if somehow the greeting could be spiced up a bit (I know, it should be sufficient, but some of these people just aren't getting it) and make it really hard to miss the point. Also, it might be an idea to do the same to the stickies about posting code - make them really noticeable.
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    How about weeding out the particularly lazy ones?
    If you made folks click on "read and accepted" under each of the 15 points in the guidelines sticky before posting, it might deter some of the "do this for me" posts. At the very least, they couldn't say they didn't know about code tags, the boards policy on homework, etc., because they couldn't post before they'd gone through it.
    Better yet, make them read it and have to pass a quiz on the guidelines before they can post.

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    That would turn the number of new registred members to zero. No one would bother going though such a process just to register on an online board.
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    Howdy,
    Honestly, a gentle or maybe not so gentle insult usually does the trick.

    M.R.
    I don't like you very much. Please post a lot less.
    Cheez
    *and then*
    No, I know you were joking. My point still stands.

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    I've suggested this before and I still think it's a good idea: There should be a manditory quiz you have to pass before you can post. Take all of the answers right out of the Announcements, and make it a multiple choice. You have to get all the answers right before you can post.

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    So, you don't think that would severly reduce the number of new members?
    And don't say that would be a good thing
    It doesn't take much for a person to decide it's not worth the effort.
    But perhaps it would not affect the new membership rate if done right. I'm not sure it would reduce the number of stupid homework questions though.
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    perhaps creating a seperate section for homework would tidy things up....make like 8 stickys in that section explaining how to ask for homework help and warn that bad questions will be ignored. if they post in the wrong section ban 'em

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    While on the topic of a homework section, we could just have it there to weed out those questions more easily into a section of the board where it won't interfere with regular posts. Then, whenever it strikes somebody's fancy, they can just pick and choose a poster from their to let off some pent up rage on?

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    hahaha
    homework forum
    that is a funny option, but a good idea in my opinion.
    and it doubles as a stress relief.
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    supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting."
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    A homework forum will make sure homework posts keep of the other boards but it then you would just see all different kinds of questions ranging from VB to C++ Java Perl Python Php and all the like poppin up...

    And yeah it would definately be a funny board...
    BUT an insane one to manage and maintain...

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    Yeah, and then you'll get the ones that are really off topic...

    If a Greyhound bus leaves Chicago at 2:15 A.M. travelling west at 14 miles per hour, and a plane leaves Florida heading towards Australia at 300 miles per hour. Now, assuming gravity is at a constant, how long will people keep reading this post before they get tired of this quickly declining joke which was clever at first but the author just didn't know when to stop and wrote more than he should have.
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    welll.....granted people would post in the correct homework section, the same honor system rules would apply if one was to tell them the board was for C and C++ only...

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    A homework forum would be great. This is how it would work:
    1) Any question which even remotely appears like homework would be moved there.
    2) None of the regular members would post there, including moderators.
    3) The only people that would post there would be people needing homework done.

    See how great that would be? Just punt the post over there and forget about it.
    Seriously though, how hard would it be to have a quiz you have to answer?
    1) When should you use code tags?
    a) Never.
    b) Every time you have any kind of question.
    c) Every time you post code.

    2) Which is the correct way to use code tags?
    a) <code> ...your code in the middle of them like this... </code>
    b) [code] ...your code in the middle of them like this... [/code]
    c) ===code=== ...your code here... ===code===
    Then throw a few in on other stuff, like homework and the like.

    [edit]
    Hell, I've got a BETTER idea! Make it so every time you submit a post you have to answer one random question from a bank of questions covering the announcements also.

    The regular posters would soon have them memorized, so it would just be the matter of ticking a radio button and continuing as normal. The rest of the people would at least have to answer SOMETHING, and would have no excuse for being ignorant as to what the announcements cover.

    I'm all for it. I don't have any problems answering some question I already know the answer to before I hit the button.

    This is a great idea. I'd even make it cover stupid FAQ questions, like fflush( stdin ) and what not. Nothing overly hard. You could even have a link in the question saying "The answer is here."
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    I think a homework board is a good idea. It could have a limited amount of times each person is allowed to post/start threads for say every week or month so to prevent rampant abuse. If people felt like doing them maybe it could have separate newbie/homework tutorials on more braod topics such as good coding practice, simple algorithms or other such things.

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    I actually wouldn't mind a separate homework forum. That way I could go there and help people with their homework without having to wade through all the sarcasm and hostility from established members!

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