Microsoft hiding things for users??

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    Microsoft hiding things for users??

    Hey everyone,

    I dont know wether somebody already posted this one, if so my bad. Anyhow as i was browsing on my favorite security group site i stumbled in onto this

    I have not checked these things myself on my system but i will asap. Now as said in my second link this think can cause one kind of trouble indeed.

    Now im asking myself, how much should we believe in their products. As in how do we know wether its doing what we want, since it can obviously ( as you all know as programmers ) do other things on the background at the same time.

    Anyhow i was just wondering i dont know what you guys think about this....

    PS: I didnt want to put the link in here just anyhow since i don't know wether it is against the rules of the board or not ( i should read them again since i think there ought to be some changes in one year).

    Bye for now,

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    Yer link is broken. Here's what it became: http://www.I am sillyI am sillyI am sillyI am sillymicrosoft.com/content/ms-hidden-files.shtml
    Naturally I didn't feel inspired enough to read all the links for you, since I already slaved away for long hours under a blistering sun pressing the search button after typing four whole words! - Quzah

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    My bad sry fixed link ( redirection trough security group ), im off i want to check this thing see if its one kind of hoax or not...

    Nite nite, for everyone who goes to sleep.

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    HahahahahahahahasasdhasjhfaKFHDASFDAS

    Oh noes!! M$$ is INDEXING your FILES!!

    God do I hate that site. Weak stuff. Nothing to get alarmed over.

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    Well, some months ago I read something on a friend's site about how the next Microsoft would require online registration etc. for a lot of installs. So he switched to Linux. I'll see if I can get it.
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    I'm with -KEN- on this one.

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    I was bored and looked into it, and looky what I found... One of the files tells windows to send something to this file on 66.185.95.130.


    wpad.dat: (wordpad?)
    Code:
    function FindProxyForURL(url, host)
    {
    if (shExpMatch(host, "wustat.windows.com")||
        shExpMatch(host, "www.torontomls.net")||
        shExpMatch(host, "v4.windowsupdate.*")||
        shExpMatch(url, "http://www.microsoft.com/isapi/redir.dll*")||
        shExpMatch(url, "http://www.torontomls.net/Login.asp*")||
        shExpMatch(host, "windowsupdate.*"))
    	
            return "DIRECT";
    
    if (url.substring(0, 5) == "http:" || url.substring(0, 4) == "ftp:")  return "PROXY cache:8080; DIRECT";
    
    return "DIRECT";
    
    }
    What exactly would that do, I can tell its in C or C++, but I cant tell what it does. Just thought I could post ^^

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    Looks more like Java than C or C++. Where did that file come from again?

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    What exactly would that do, I can tell its in C or C++, but I cant tell what it does. Just thought I could post ^^
    I believe this is in javascript.

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    WPAD = Web Proxy Auto Detect. It is just another way of configuring proxy servers.
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    Well, some months ago I read something on a friend's site about how the next Microsoft would require online registration etc. for a lot of installs. So he switched to Linux. I'll see if I can get it.
    wont matter much with the whole palladium idea which has intel and AMD coming on the bandwagon. do a google search for "Trusted Computing Initiative" and read what comes up. Basically to summarize, there are going to be anti piracy measures incorperated directly in your hardware which will only let programs that are "registered" with the hardware to run. This could mean that programmers would be plain out of luck unless they are professionals and have hardware that allows them to run new software unregistered.
    there used to be something here, but not anymore

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    We have mod chips for Xbox now same way we might have mods for those systems..

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    We have mod chips for Xbox now same way we might have mods for those systems..
    the implementatons are going to be IN the cpu... I dont think anyone has laser etching systems for that.
    there used to be something here, but not anymore

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    Well what about reverse compatibility? I mean, my collection of old adventure games isn't going to be registered, and neither is anything else I own. You'd have to buy all new software if you wanted to upgrade.

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    Not a big deal, just don't use IE, that's a given.

    But I just don't trust any company that sells an OS like that. If I pay 200 bucks for something, it damn well better work and not have security patches up the arse every month.

    I don't think MS could get away with making you register every piece of software you own, that's waaaaay overboard. People wouldn't do it, and their sales would suffer. It doesn't matter how bad they want to put a stranglehold on their customers, if they start dissappearing they'll stop.
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